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    Quote Originally Posted by trustme View Post
    It's a Christchurch thing
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    I think it is a Christchurch thing.
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    And Dunedin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    That and wait until you see your exit and make a nice smooth line from the outside lane straight to the off ramp. Reverse when entering the motorway. I'm really surprised there are so few accidents.
    I was on an IAM ride with a couple of guys recently on the Southern Motorway. The Associate was giving commentary and he noted an Impreza coming down an on-ramp at a fair lick which then ripped across in front of us into the "fast lane" despite it being really busy. "I'll be giving that a wide berth" he says. Within a minute, the Impreza ran clean up the back of the car in front due to following too closely. You see it all on the Auckland motorway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Ironic to have a former cop having a moan about this. I've never EVER seen a cop deal to this or enforce the "use left lane unless passing" rule.
    Do you possess some sort of telepathic ability that enables you to interpret exactly what the cop you just drove past writing out a ticket was issuing it for?

    slow cunts in the right lane annoy me, but I just go around 'em either way

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    Interesting thing with Chch is, most people don't actually treat it like a "multilane" motorway with fast and slow lanes.
    I think the issue is that there is only two lanes, so people just treat it like any other two lane bit of road and spread out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    My point was Section 2.8(2)(a) of the Road User Rule allows passing on the left on a multi lane road. By condoning the practice this lessens the intent of 2.1(3) where it lists the eight particular scenarios for when you can drive in the right hand lane. Most days I see people ignoring this. Well, ignoring it is a bit strong, it is simply another example of things being introduced or built, in this case the Fairfield bypass, with no education whatsoever on how to use it. I only know bits of the Road User Rule through my work, Joe Public is not going to read it even if he knows it exists...
    From the Road User Rules section of NZTA:
    Keeping left

    What does the Road User Rule say about keeping left?
    In general, you should keep left unless turning right, passing or the lane is blocked.

    So what’s changed?
    The emphasis is now on keeping left unless you have a good reason, eg you are turning right, passing another or the left lane is blocked. Previously, the regulations focused on not impeding other road users.

    Given they’re restricted to 90 km/h, why haven’t we made trucks and heavy vehicles legally obliged to used the left-hand lane at all times?
    The same rules apply to trucks and heavy vehicles as apply to any other vehicle – they should keep left unless turning right, passing or the lane is blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    Do you possess some sort of telepathic ability that enables you to interpret exactly what the cop you just drove past writing out a ticket was issuing it for?
    You actually saw a cop get out of his nice cozy car?
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    Newspaper recently had an article on foreign drivers tips for a safer N.Z.

    One of them was - "no passing on the left".

    Screw that.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/8858...n-drive-better

    (They also say "keep lights on all the time" - which I don't like in cars as it makes the bikes stand out less).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    My point was Section 2.8(2)(a) of the Road User Rule allows passing on the left on a multi lane road. By condoning the practice this lessens the intent of 2.1(3) where it lists the eight particular scenarios for when you can drive in the right hand lane. Most days I see people ignoring this. Well, ignoring it is a bit strong, it is simply another example of things being introduced or built, in this case the Fairfield bypass, with no education whatsoever on how to use it. I only know bits of the Road User Rule through my work, Joe Public is not going to read it even if he knows it exists.

    Anyroad, I prefer it this way. Firstly I have no hesitation in undertaking another vehicle if it is hindering my progress and secondly it flags the driver of said vehicle as someone who either does not use their mirrors, does not know the road rules or does not care about motorbikes. All three are useful things to know before passing them.
    From a site called Driving Test.

    There are no laws in New Zealand that prevent you from passing on the left (or 'undertaking') on a motorway. expressway or dual carriageway if the vehicle in the right-hand lane is going slower. Drivers who have driven in the UK might find this odd.

    However, this doesn't mean that you are allowed to travel indefinitely in the right-hand lane on a motorway or expressway if you are not overtaking.
    And it's not just a Dunedin thing either ..

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    In defence of the lack of enforcement of this rule.

    In order for there to be a ticket written, there has to be a precedent code (basically an offence code) identifying the piece of law the officers allegation relates to.

    As best I recall the failing to keep left prec codes are vague. For example, I worked Auckland Motorways for a while with the MoT back in the day. A crusty old Senior Traffic Sergeant told me that each lane on a road is viewed as a road in its own right, so as long as you stay to the left of whichever lane you are in, you are not failing to keep left. It sounds like tripe to me, but could be the case.

    I recall that the road north of Ngauranga has signs on it saying Keep Left Unless Passing. I recall that when the signs were installed the local cops wrote a lot of tickets for prec code F606-Failed To Comply With A Traffic Sign.

    Those signs appear to improve the situation.

    On the courses I run I always tell punters it's better to use the left lane unless there's a reason to use the right lane. This includes at junctions where the approach road opens out to two lanes for the intersection then merges back to one again.

    To an extent I feel a little like a voice in the wilderness on that. I teach folk to do it, while nobody else does. Frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    In defence of the lack of enforcement of this rule.

    In order for there to be a ticket written, there has to be a precedent code (basically an offence code) identifying the piece of law the officers allegation relates to.

    As best I recall the failing to keep left prec codes are vague. For example, I worked Auckland Motorways for a while with the MoT back in the day. A crusty old Senior Traffic Sergeant told me that each lane on a road is viewed as a road in its own right, so as long as you stay to the left of whichever lane you are in, you are not failing to keep left. It sounds like tripe to me, but could be the case.
    All this just reads as "it's tooooo haaaaard, it's easier just to write speeding tickets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    You actually saw a cop get out of his nice cozy car?
    only for donuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    All this just reads as "it's tooooo haaaaard, it's easier just to write speeding tickets"
    If you were less of an ignorant cunt, you'd realise he gave up that quite a while ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    All this just reads as "it's tooooo haaaaard, it's easier just to write speeding tickets"
    Looking back at my 27 year career, I wrote a few speeding tickets.

    While out looking for seatbelt offences. If you have a radar switched on in this country, it's not possible to see nobody doing inappropriate speeds.

    I reckon my tickets were 40% seatbelts, 40% traffic signs (No Right Turn, STOP etc), 10 % speed and 10% others. Cellphone tickets were my most recent favourite, but they only came along in the last short time.

    Of course, I'm sure you know more about my career than I do. After all, I only lived it. You are the expert.

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    Actually what slutted me off most over the holidays was dedicated, well signed passing lanes on the hill and the apparently tourist drivers remaining in the 'right side' passing lane. Horn use did not help - they appeared oblivious to why the motorcyclist was angry .... and to be fair the Ducati has a pathetic, scooter worthy horn, so they were either laughing at it or could not hear in over my exhaust

    The above happened four times over the break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    So many people are using the fast lane by default, I have started to use the slow lane to go faster. Here's the news : it works.

    I came onto the Christchurch Northern Motorway this morning on the way to work. Bugger all traffic, but what was there was all sitting in the fast lane (the outside lane of two), so I just stayed in the left lane and passed them all.

    That's not how it's supposed to work, but it does.

    So many folk have this sense of sitting in the fast lane, even when there's no reason to, that's it's defeating the purpose.

    WTF?
    LOL at "fast" lane round this town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat;1131025820y,[B
    it's not possible to see nobody doing inappropriate speeds.[/B]
    is that, like, a triple negative? does it mean you always found people speeding?



    don't forget the pulling up the motorcyclists for a "random" stop to see if we have proper licences
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