Nutty season on the roads

[swbarnett]

Unlike you I am not "expected" to take any particular line in a corner as they are all different where I live and I treat them so and there may be some I actually ride "your way" its just that I dont analyse over it like you guys do. Sticking to a "specific line" for all bends is a recipie for disaster in my opinion.

Of course there are always expections to the rules (and I don't mean laws in this context). First learn the rules, then learn when you can, and sometimes should, break them. You haven't even learned the rules yet so you're far from qualified to talk about when they can and should be broken.

[nzspokes]

So what road rules have I advocated breaking on here as you are the first person to say

Killing dogs.

[SVboy]

Its not possible to see around the corner on a lot of bends irrespective of where you position yourself on the road and the further you are to the centre the less time you have to react if shit happens. But dont let me put you off what the riding school teaches. The road code from what I last read says "Keep Left".

May I encourage you to remain keeping far left on blind left handers. You will be fine. For ALL other motorcyclist's please disregard this dangerous fool's blatherings. Darwins law should be along shortly.

[george formby]

So what road rules have I advocated breaking on here as you are the first person to say I have? I may have said I have exceeded the speed limit from time to time but have never suggested others on here do the same. For your information I have held a full license since about 1977 and I would be no longer alive if I did not know the rules.

Using that logic, all motorists and riders who have held their licence for a similar length of time should know the rules and be safe, capable, road users, too. My experience on the road does not imply this. Nor do the statistics.

Doing the same thing for a long period of time is no indicator of improvement or wisdom.

[Scubbo]

[AllanB]

I've decided I need to be more tolerant of other road users stupidity. I'm pulling back, chilling out, or passing the fucker and getting the hell out of there.

2017 is going to be stressful at work - I plan to reduce stress elsewhere.


Wine is nice. But not while riding.

[george formby]

I've decided I need to be more tolerant of other road users stupidity. I'm pulling back, chilling out, or passing the fucker and getting the hell out of there.

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Oh, you know ChCh's biggest threat by sight?

[Gremlin]

Doing the same thing for a long period of time is no indicator of improvement or wisdom.

Someone once broke it down quite easily.

Riding for 20 years? OK, so a mixture of commuting, race track, country riding?
Ok, just country, once or twice a month, maybe every weekend?
Ok, so all weather, rain, sun, wind etc?
Ok, so just sun, and in 20 years, you've pretty much covered most roads in the country?
Ok, so you have a route you take every time (for Aucklanders, perhaps Puhoi, Kauaia etc)
Ok, so call it 5 or 10 routes...

Over 20 years you've got 5-10 days of experience, the rest were pretty much just repeats of stuff you'd already done...

So, just because you've been riding for a number of years, doesn't mean you have a heap of experience...

[AllanB]

Over 20 years you've got 5-10 days of experience, the rest were pretty much just repeats of stuff you'd already done...

You talking about my love life?

[awayatc]

some people are just not suitable......

some can't take a hint

[swbarnett]

So what road rules have I advocated breaking on here as you are the first person to say I have? I may have said I have exceeded the speed limit from time to time but have never suggested others on here do the same.

Typical. You obviously missed this bit:

(and I don't mean laws in this context)

I am NOT talking about legalities. I'm talking about the rules of practice. Without a knowledge of these a motorcyclist is just another lump of cells on a bike.

It's like when I was into photography. There are rules of composition (the rule of thirds for example). When you're a novice you stick to the rules. When you understand them well enough you get to know when you can break them to producesome amazingly dynamic pictures.

For your information I have held a full license since about 1977 and I would be no longer alive if I did not know the rules.

And yet you keep hitting things and claiming there was nothing you could've done. You're alive today by sheer dumb luck. You're proof that the roads aren't as dangerous as some would have us believe.

[swbarnett]

When advertising for staff many employers prefer experience over qualifications so there must be some merit in having experience over just a qualification. So to you then holding a riding school qualification demonstrates a better ability to ride than 10 years or more experience?

As Gremlin said, longevity of experience doesn't mean you can do the job. Neither does a qualifiacation. I've known people that were hired because they had both that didn't last six months. They may have been in the industry for a number of years and passed a lot of exams but they simply could not do the job.

[swbarnett]

In most cases having experience does prove you can do the job otherwise why would most employers ask for it? Have a look at current job ads if you dont believe me.

Oh, I believe you. Most of the time, yes, years of experience counts for something. The point is that it doesn't always follow.

The other point is that experience in a job is more likely to bear fruit then experience in a hobby. After all, you do your job (supposedly) eight hours a day. How often someone does their hobby can vary wildly.

[swbarnett]

It could be said we are all alive today as a result of sheer dumb luck or maybe in your case another vehicle has never swerved towards you as a result of a screwup on their part.

It's happened to me a number of times. EVERY time I've been in a position to react accordingly and come of still rubber side down. This is because I accept that shit can happen (yes, even to me) and I plan accordingly.

If you know of any new rules that should be in the road code why not let the authorites know about them?

Woooshhh!!! That's the sound of the concept passing overhead as you duck for cover, fearing that you might actually learn something.

On the other hand though to use your photographic analogy you ride better when you break them. I think you are somewhat mixed up.

Yet again you completely refuse to accept the idea of CONTEXT. In the photographic analogy, yes, breaking the rules can produce some dramatic results. However, there are also times when sticking to the rules will do the same. It's a matter of knowing when to apply the rules and when you're better off trusting your own read of the situation.

[Akzle]

some people are just not suitable......

some can't take a hint

i think he needs to take a punch, more like.