RUC Petition for Motorcyclists

[swbarnett]

What about a levvy on your drivers license rather than your vehicles. You can only drive/ride one at a time. And its you that is covered. Not what you are using at the time.

Levvy based on vehicle classes held. For private vehicles at least.

Just because you hold a particular class of license doesn't mean you actually drive that type of vehicle. My father has a m/cycle license and hasn't ridden in thirty years.

Take ACC out of tax. Problem solved.

[zwies]

Thats true. While i hold both car and bike. I don't own or drive a car.

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[Hads]

Lets assume ACC want to cover the entire cost of a serious injury accident, and that the average cost is 100k, motorcyclists on average every 1 million km's driven have a serious injury crash, acc would then have to charge 10c per km. So RUC's would be $100 per 1000km, this would be terrible for commuters.

[FJRider]

Just out of curiosity, have you always lived in central otago

Nope, I once lived about 20 minutes away from where you actually live ... And at one stage ... my father worked at the Waimatuku garage.

[russd7]

Nope, I once lived about 20 minutes away from where you actually live ... And at one stage ... my father worked at the Waimatuku garage.

was that for the current owner or his father

[FJRider]

was that for the current owner or his father

I was eight years old at the time.

[Moi]

Nope, I once lived about 20 minutes away from where you actually live ... And at one stage ... my father worked at the Waimatuku garage.

was that for the current owner or his father

I was eight years old at the time.

Guess that means in the days of Model-Ts...

[swbarnett]

Lets assume ACC want to cover the entire cost of a serious injury accident, and that the average cost is 100k, motorcyclists on average every 1 million km's driven have a serious injury crash, acc would then have to charge 10c per km. So RUC's would be $100 per 1000km, this would be terrible for commuters.

That would cost me over 3 grand a year. You're right, this proposal just shifts the burden from those rich enough to own more than one bike to commuters that may not even be in the comfortable category financially.

[R650R]

Haven't read whole the whole thread but.... some pertinent points....

A distance based payment system means the need for an accurate, certified, maintained and inspected distance measurement tool. This is half the reason why trucks have their own dedicated police force, the CVIU, to check that distances are being accurately recorded. Because given half the chance many people will resort to cheating the system.
So do you want an extar reason/rpobable cause for police to be stopping bikes or having dedicated bike checkpoints, NO.
Also for truck RUC the massive trend at the moment is for electronic based payment and recording. This means having a GPS device fitted to your vehicle. But it gets better (or worse depnding on your view), those devices also operate as black box data recorders and record your entire driving history to the cloud....
So you still want RUC? Well its just about always paid for in advance, smallest at moment is 1000km increments i think....
Also most RUC differentiate between max apyload and number of axles, so there's already a precedent to charge/steal extra based on size weight of bike etc.....
Successive govt regimes ahve found various excuses to continually jack up RUC prices....

So NO to any pay as you go system.... ACC is a rort but its a set amount of rort and pillage....

[trufflebutter]

I like the idea of a RUC. No need for me personally to own more than one bike and I am an occasional rider, can't please everyone but I feel that overall, most will not be to adverse to the idea proposed. In saying that, I might sell the bike and buy a boat.

452 signatures so far? pretty pathetic to be honest. When the ACC hikes where introduced in 09' the opposition was swift.

[nzspokes]

I like the idea of a RUC. No need for me personally to own more than one bike and I am an occasional rider, can't please everyone but I feel that overall, most will not be to adverse to the idea proposed. In saying that, I might sell the bike and buy a boat.

452 signatures so far? pretty pathetic to be honest. When the ACC hikes where introduced in 09' the opposition was swift.

For those of us that a motorcycle is not a fashion accessory, its a bullshit idea.

[trufflebutter]

For those of us that a motorcycle is not a fashion accessory, its a bullshit idea.

Like I said ''can't please everyone'' and that will be the case no matter not what policy/levy is introduced in the direction of motorcycle owner. Whether they be weekend riders or daily commuters, which I suspect you are?

[onearmedbandit]

452 signatures so far? pretty pathetic to be honest. When the ACC hikes where introduced in 09' the opposition was swift.

I'm guessing that's the case because most motorcyclists will be opposed to it...

[trufflebutter]

I'm guessing that's the case because most motorcyclists will be opposed to it...

Opposed to 'Paying for usage like RUC means bike owners can own more than one bike but pay only for actual use' ?

I thought that is what many who owned more than one bike wanted when the the ACC hikes where introduced?

[Katman]

That would cost me over 3 grand a year. You're right, this proposal just shifts the burden from those rich enough to own more than one bike to commuters that may not even be in the comfortable category financially.

Surely the answer to that would be having the option of paying the current rate for 12 months rego or opting for a mileage based fee.