MotoGP 2017

[Autech]

Can't see the lack of wings having anything to do with that.

In theory it would make it easier to turn without from what I have read.


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[Crasherfromwayback]

In theory it would make it easier to turn without from what I have read.
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Aye. They create down force, and that ain't gonna help a bike turn.

[pritch]

Can't see the lack of wings having anything to do with that.

If there's less downforce on the front wheel they might have a grip problem? They've had a problem turning for years, the wings were credited with easing it.

Anyhoo the professional pundits are now coming online. Vinales was pissed off with Marquez. During MV's race distance run he was tipped off that MM was stalking him so he cut the session short. A bit of needle between those two is not a bad thing.

[pritch]

https://motomatters.com/analysis/201...st_friday.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

If there's less downforce on the front wheel they might have a grip problem? They've had a problem turning for years, the wings were credited with easing it.

Vinales was pissed off with Marquez. During MV's race distance run he was tipped off that MM was stalking him so he cut the session short. A bit of needle between those two is not a bad thing.

Downforce and grip are prob two different/separate issues with the Ducati I imagine.

And fuck him. Harden up Sonny! Bring it on.

[husaberg]

In theory it would make it easier to turn without from what I have read.


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I think the turning thing is a red herring.
If you look behind the areas where most of the wings are located on all the different variations on the Ducati wings esp the early ones you will notice there is a airflow outlet.

I believe the main purpose of the wings is to create a low pressure area to aid the removial of hot radiator air.
Just like John Britten did on the later V1000 wih the radiator under the seat in a low pressure area using differential air pressure for better cooling and less frontal area
Funny enough he also earlier tried wings mounted up high where they wouild be the most usefull but they encountered stabilty problems esp in cross winds.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just like John Britten did on the later V1000 wih the radiator under the seat in a low pressure area using differential air pressure for better cooling and less frontal area
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Pity he was too stubborn to put forks in the fucking thing.

[husaberg]

Pity he was too stubborn to put forks in the fucking thing.

I think it came down to $2G+ for the WP forks he previously used vs a chance to do something different, plus as it was predominantly designed for the Daytona banking.
Which places weird conflicting demands of on suspension.
The girder was also more tuneable plus better aero.
Ultimately of course ,conventional forks may have been better, but he did it his way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ultimately of course ,conventional forks are still better, but he did it his way.

Fixed that for ya. Many people have tried to better them...all have failed so far.

[speights_bud]

Is anyone following the "Dear George" Facebook feeds? There's some pretty good stuff in there....

[speights_bud]

It's all based around communications between Jorge and others (mostly Gigi)

[pritch]

Thanks I!ll.check that out.

The KTM CEO has reportedly announced, "Honda is our greatest enemy, they always cheat and they don't need to."

Another graduate of the Trump school of diplomacy?

[roogazza]

haha Rossi whores !!!!!

[Mental Trousers]

Can't see the lack of wings having anything to do with that.

In theory it would make it easier to turn without from what I have read.

The Ducati's need to be held down to turn. That's the biggest difference Lorenzo has found. On the Yamaha he would brake, release then turn but on the Ducati he's had to learn to brake all the way into the apex. So the wings probably helped them in this area.

[Mental Trousers]

Ultimately of course ,conventional forks are still better, but he did it his way.

Fixed that for ya. Many people have tried to better them...all have failed so far.

No racers are willing to put in the time and take the hit in their reslts to develop them properly. Same for those with the money to develop them. Same for the manufacturers.

Motorcyclists are not mainstream types but they're incredibly conservative, preferring to go with what's winning now instead of what would be winning in the future.

Forks have had bllions and billions of hours poured into them, both on the track and road. Other front ends barely get out of the hundreds of hours.