New Zealand. What a back water shit hole.

[Voltaire]

would be nice if they paid their own power bills instead of us having to subsidise the bludgers, i say cut the cook straight cable and see what happens

With the way the weather is we could set up a hydro power station in New Lynn or the Hunua's.

I mustn't understand how subsidies work, but find it hard to believe the SI supports the NI....just sayin'

[husaberg]

With the way the weather is we could set up a hydro power station in New Lynn or the Hunua's.

I mustn't understand how subsidies work, but find it hard to believe the SI supports the NI....just sayin'

Most of our water comes from snow stuck on rather large hills.......
Plus we still have had to pay for the HVDC upgrade,(ie north Island power umbilical ) as part of the Transpower line charges yet we don't use it at all.
We also pay on average more for our power.
There are plenty of suitable valleys in Northland for a hydro scheme.

[russd7]

With the way the weather is we could set up a hydro power station in New Lynn or the Hunua's.

I mustn't understand how subsidies work, but find it hard to believe the SI supports the NI....just sayin'

look in to power network pricing, the south island and wellington pay way more for the network than what is used down here. article the other day and can't remember exact stats but in last four years we have had a 300 percent increase in supply charges yet auckland has only had a 40 percent increase'

ad to that the 6 cents per litre put on our fuel costs a few years ago to put in to auckland roading network, certainly looks a lot like subsidies to me.

there are moves afoot to remedy the power one but the government hasn't got the balls to do it properly because our power costs will drop dramatically while auckland power will increase dramatically, go figure.

without firing up the mothballed solid fuel power stations then the north island won't even come close to becoming self sufficient in electricity generation.

can you tell me what exactly auckland subsidise for the rest of the country

[husaberg]

look in to power network pricing, the south island and wellington pay way more for the network than what is used down here. article the other day and can't remember exact stats but in last four years we have had a 300 percent increase in supply charges yet auckland has only had a 40 percent increase'

ad to that the 6 cents per litre put on our fuel costs a few years ago to put in to auckland roading network, certainly looks a lot like subsidies to me.

there are moves afoot to remedy the power one but the government hasn't got the balls to do it properly because our power costs will drop dramatically while auckland power will increase dramatically, go figure.

without firing up the mothballed solid fuel power stations then the north island won't even come close to becoming self sufficient in electricity generation.

can you tell me what exactly auckland subsidise for the rest of the country

Even if they fired up all the Huntly power station where would they get the coal from.

[Zedder]

can you tell me what exactly auckland subsidise for the rest of the country

For 2015, Auckland contributed 36.6% to New Zealand's Gross Domestic product while Canterbury contributed 13.6%: http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_...TPYeMar15.aspx

[mossy1200]

Even if they fired up all the Huntly power station where would they get the coal from.

Didnt we sell all our coal and it currently being stored in the ocean offshore by asians.

[Voltaire]

look in to power network pricing, the south island and wellington pay way more for the network than what is used down here. article the other day and can't remember exact stats but in last four years we have had a 300 percent increase in supply charges yet auckland has only had a 40 percent increase'

ad to that the 6 cents per litre put on our fuel costs a few years ago to put in to auckland roading network, certainly looks a lot like subsidies to me.

there are moves afoot to remedy the power one but the government hasn't got the balls to do it properly because our power costs will drop dramatically while auckland power will increase dramatically, go figure.

without firing up the mothballed solid fuel power stations then the north island won't even come close to becoming self sufficient in electricity generation.

can you tell me what exactly auckland subsidise for the rest of the country

I don't know, but with over a 1/3 of the population I'm guessing the tax is spread around the country, we buy lots of SI products, and take holidays there. LED lighting should reduce the load on the network.
Your welcome to take all the immigrants that turn up here doing U turns in front of me and yaking on their phones as they drive their fecking Audis around.

[Zedder]

I don't know, but with over a 1/3 of the population I'm guessing the tax is spread around the country, we buy lots of SI products, and take holidays there. LED lighting should reduce the load on the network.
Your welcome to take all the immigrants that turn up here doing U turns in front of me and yaking on their phones as they drive their fecking Audis around.

Strangely enough, 2013 figures showed Auckland got 31-32% of overall Government dollars while the South Island got 24%: http://transportblog.co.nz/2015/10/1...land-too-much/

[Swoop]

I wonder with all these new houses being built in Akl, how the power situation has changed since the last discussion here in 2014

Probably the same as the water situation (fresh water coming in and waste water out). The spastic cunts in D'auckland council still want to squeeze as many houses into every place possible yet keep the same drains as before.


THEN, we get Phuck up Goff who has joined the "I want a monument to MYSELF!" group of spastics.
We do NOT want a fucking stadium on the waterfront you cunt. Attempting to justify shutting down Eden Park because YOUR fucking council retards limit it to 20-odd night events per year?????????
Someone kick this cuntmonkey in the twat NOW.

[husaberg]

Didnt we sell all our coal and it currently being stored in the ocean offshore by asians.

There was talk of it being buiried in Japan, but coal doesn't do well in the open anyway (it breaks up in the sun and open air)
So covering it wth dirt or under water is not that unusual.
Huntley power station was importing coal from Indonesia even though it had a coal mine next door.
I think there is still a couple of coal mines in the Waikato area, open cast.
Although they as they were SE might have been sold off now.NZDG used to have their own at one stage.
Down here All the SE ones here have now been sold off or they are being sealed. (Pike, Spring creek)
Still a few smaller private open cast opperating though.

Also in regards to subisidising aucklanders a percentage of road user charges and tax on fuel used to be given to the local councils where the fuel or RUC was derived from.
Now nearly all of it goes to roads of national significance fund ie fixing Auckland. As a result all of our roads here are getting well fucked. while all the money is going up north becuase aucklanders can't be bothered to catch a bus.

[Zedder]

Also in regards to subisidising aucklanders a percentage of road user charges and tax on fuel used to be given to the local councils where the fuel or RUC was derived from.
Now nearly all of it goes to roads of national significance fund ie fixing Auckland. As a result all of our roads here are getting well fucked. while all the money is going up north becuase aucklanders can't be bothered to catch a bus.

Auckland received a 48.5% share of NZTA spending on roads from 2005-2014. Also, from 2010 to 2015, bus passenger boardings rose by 8.64 million.

[Daffyd]

...lots of sparks and molten copper I would say...who would volunteer for the holding of the the hacksaw...

I would very much doubt that it would be copper. More likely steel sheathed aluminium.

[husaberg]

Auckland received a 48.5% share of NZTA spending on roads from 2005-2014. Also, from 2010 to 2015, bus passenger boardings rose by 8.64 million.

Yet Auckland does not have either 48% of the population or 48% of the roads. Akward situation considering its meant to be a user pays world.
Auckland recieves about 20% funding that should be of rights going elsewhere based on population.

Rail
In November 2009, government confirmed that it would fund the second $500 million half of the electrification project from Crown funds

Auckland still ranks quite low in its use of public transport, having only 46 public transport trips per capita per year, while Wellington has almost twice this number at 91, and Sydney has 114 trips. This strong roading focus results in substantial traffic congestion during peak times.

[husaberg]

I would very much doubt that it would be copper. More likely steel sheathed aluminium.

The three submarine cables conecting are indeed copper cored
along with lead sheath and a steel layer for protection and rubber (the other layer is paper based)
http://powerlab.fsb.hr/enerpedia/ima...Stankovic5.jpg

The overhead conductors are steel and alumnium though.

[Zedder]

Yet Auckland does not have either 48% of the population or 48% of the roads. Akward situation considering its meant to be a user pays world.
Auckland recieves about 20% funding that should be of rights going elsewhere based on population.

Quite right, it doesn't have 48% of the population, it had 55% from 2006-2013 with 61.5% projected growth 'til 2043. However, Auckland still gets less spent on it than its share of the population as I wrote earlier.

Anyway, it's time to ride...