Free speech.

[Katman]

So report the posts

I leave that sort of crying to you.

[husaberg]

[bogan]

I leave that sort of crying to you.

Right, you just do the 'look at me' crying as per this thread and the last few that ended up in PD as well, instead of actually dealing with your issues. Good luck with that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fuck off cunt, the state is not touching my child.
Who the fuck do you think you are?

In which case you clearly are an unfit parent. Please hand your children into the nearest CYF office to be vaccinated. They will then be taken to an appropriate facility where they will be properly educated, washed and will eventually become productive members of society. There is no hope for you so you should just kill yourself.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So if the majority get to shout down the minority, who are the intolerant ones?

minorities can be and are far less tolerant (whatever that means in this context). Let me give you an example: hijabs and burkas.

[Katman]

There is no hope for you so you should just kill yourself.

For a lawyer you sometimes surprise me.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just let anyone dare question the safety of some vaccines and watch the vitriol fly.

sensible people don't need to question the safety of vaccines because they have been proven (from a public health perspective) to be safe. Rubella, Polio, Smallpox. Measles.

[Katman]

sensible people don't need to question the safety of vaccines

Tell that to the people who have suffered debilitating side effects.

[husaberg]

What if I just want to fuck dolphins but have no objection to deep sea drilling? shits not always black and white, KM.
:

I'd suggest maybe you stick to Orcas

[HenryDorsetCase]

So universities are being over run by leftyies.
That explains the source of that weak minded dribble they come up with.

have you been to university motherfucker?

apart from, like, delivering the mail or a pizza or some shit.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Tell that to the people who have suffered debilitating side effects.

what part of "from a public health perspective" is unclear?

[HenryDorsetCase]

For a lawyer you sometimes surprise me.

I am quite drunk and enjoying myself immensely. Pray, continue.

[husaberg]

I am quite drunk and enjoying myself immensely. Pray, continue.

Strap yourself in because it looks like Cabin boy Steve’s going to take you on a voyage on the SS Paranoia.

have you been to university motherfucker?

apart from, like, delivering the mail or a pizza or some shit.

He went to Trump university.

[nzspokes]

In which case you clearly are an unfit parent. Please hand your children into the nearest CYF office to be vaccinated.

Point of order, didnt they change CYFs name last week to Do beat your kids to death or some such thing?

[TheDemonLord]

So, as one of the so-called Nomalcy group - I think it is time for me to weigh in (like the Fat Cunt I am).

To start with a premise - Free Speech to me is as close to an unquestionable value that it is possible for me to hold, In so-far that I believe it to be pretty much a self-evident truth.

That said - to hold that position means I MUST accept critique of Free Speech as part of that Value. It is my position however that the historical, social and logical evidence in support of the necessity for Free Speech is strong enough to withstand any Critique on it.

Katman et al:

I have never once asked the Moderators to censure or move any of your Threads. Whilst I vehemently disagree with many of the things you believe to be true (and on the basis of those beliefs, judge you to be a raving loony) it is your right to express them.

In fact, I welcome that you express them - and as long as you continue to do so, I will be there to provide Rebuttal, critique and Ridicule.

Part of the reason I spend so much time doing this is for 2 main reasons:

1: So that any unbiased person who happens upon those threads can read both the argument and counter-argument to any of the views expressed, then make up their own damn mind.
2: To challenge myself - it would be very easy for me to ignore you and create an Echo Chamber, yet I continually wade into threads where I hold a contrary opinion, precisely to challenge myself and my ideas.

I don't call you a Conspiracy Theorist to shut down any conversation, only to describe you exactly as you are. All too often you will accept any form of 'evidence' if it conforms to your world view, whilst requesting impossibly high standards of Evidence for anything that contradicts your world view. This is actually a common trait amongst conspiracy theorists - across a few threads I've posted several studies where they show this and also show that people who believe in existing Conspiracies are much more likely to adopt a conspiratorial position on any given issue. And those studies describe your actions to a T.

You may not like it, but the reality is, you are predictable:

If there was an issue that came out tomorrow where an allegation was made against a group or institution that you perceived to have Power and Influence, I would bet that you would pick the side that was against that group or institution regardless of the quality of the evidence 90+% of the time.

and before you retort, in the same Manner - I am somewhat predictable - I see a thread where you are spouting your usual Cui Bono, Corrupt establishment, can't trust TPTB etc. Rhetoric - I'm going to post to call you out on your usual BS.

The issue is that you confuse a laudable and reasonable position with your own.

Probably the best example of this is look at the times when you have had to claim that Evidence was manufactured in order to support your theories, then using the theory as justification to believe that the Evidence was manufactured.

The reasonable person asks questions, assess all viewpoints (and this may come as a surprise, but that DOES include yours), reviews the evidence and back-checks it where required then makes a decision. Time and Time again, you show that you see a hint of something that gives you reason to justify your dislike of someone or a group higher up the food chain make your decision and then go looking for evidence to confirm your biases.

What you perceive as people attempting to limit your Free Speech, is just people expressing theirs.

For the record - I don't agree with the Mods decisions around PD (although I do like to have a laugh about it when it happens) - but I see their reasoning and accept it.

Back to Free Speech and the curtailing of it however

The closest I probably come is on the subject of Vaccinations - one of the few limits on Free Speech is when it causes harm - the classic example being yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre. In this instance the Misinformation spread by certain people has caused needless Death and suffering.

And without getting back into that debate (we have a whole thread for that if you are so inclined to get your ass handed to you... again...) that is where I draw some form of line, but I try and draw it as thinly and as narrowly as possible.

To end this - I'm going to post Dr Jordan B Peterson - a Canadian Professor who regardless which side of any fence you sit on - I highly encourage you to listen to - he has several things to say on Free Speech (and other issues) and IMO drops some major Truth Bombs whilst doing so.