Free speech.

[Drew]

Tell that to the people who have suffered debilitating side effects.

Some people have an adverse reaction to vaccines. That's why they are spread out so as to be detected early as unable to have them.

The number of those unfortunate people is a tiny fraction of a percent of the number of people saved by the vaccines.

The freedom of speech you and others have exercised has negatively impacted on society and the practice of being vaccinated.

Outbreaks of diseases are now happening around the world, because fucktards like you are spreading bullshit.

[pritch]

Point of order, didnt they change CYFs name last week

Oranga Tamariki

[Virago]

Gordon Bennett, where to start...

Should anyone dare to voice an opinion outside the norm they're instantly deemed to be a conspiracy theorist, a peddler of hate speech or any other form of social pariah that is the current flavour of the month.

There's a particularly vocal band on here, who with the complete complicity of the moderators, will work their little socks off to get topics they don't want discussed moved from the view of the wider public.

Under the circumstances, I won't suggest that above statement is a conspiracy theory, but your suggestion that the mods are complicit with other groups to shut you down is no doubt paranoiac.

And therein lies the problem.

You can't mention the words Geo-Engineering without being told you're a fucking moron who doesn't know what a contrail is.

You can't question the events of 9/11 without being told you're a fucking moron who thinks everyone's out to get you.

You can't criticise Israel without being accused of being a fucking Anti-Semite.

You can't question our Defense Force without being called a unpatriotic terrorist lover.

You can't question deep sea oil drilling without being accused of wanting to fuck dolphins.

The list is seemingly endless.

And yet your own response to valid debate is often to hurl non-stop insults - retard, shitforbrains, autistic, blah, blah. Are you not being a little hypocritical here?

I have no problem with someone disagreeing with my opinion and I'm quite happy to strongly defend my opinion.

Yes, the very essence of the free speech you speak of. Noting of course that free speech is a two-way process in any debate.

And I've made no mention of the idea of democracy - other than to say I'm well aware that KB isn't run as one.

My point is that we're seeing more and more instances of the majority thinking it is ok to shut down the free speech of the minority.

I think that's fundamentally wrong.

We may have to agree to disagree on this, but I don't believe that threads are relegated to pink solely on the efforts of your debate opponents. Once threads degenerate into a downward spiral of abuse and insults (including from the thread starter), it is the likely outcome. I think that as well as pointing the finger, you may need to accept responsibility for your own actions.

[husaberg]

[Katman]

Under the circumstances, I won't suggest that above statement is a conspiracy theory, but your suggestion that the mods are complicit with other groups to shut you down is no doubt paranoiac.

Then you're not very observant.

[Drew]

Then you're not very observant.

Or perhaps you are as big a fuckwit as everyone tells you, and a large majority know it.

[Katman]

Or perhaps you are as big a fuckwit as everyone tells you, and a large majority know it.

You're doing a great job of proving my point Drew.

[Virago]

Your ancestors are fuckwits then. Vaccinnes are a fairly recent invention on the human timeline of evolution/creation (take your pic).....
Your ancestors managed to reproduce without getting cervical cancer from HPV, die of malaria/polia/tetnus.bird flu/pig flu/tyransaurus rex flu/SARS/Reubella/Measles/Chickenpox..........
One might think there natural immune systems were quite effective having not been tainted by sometimes badly made and destructive modern vaccinnes...

Smallpox is estimated to have caused 300 to 500 million deaths in the 20th century alone, before being eradicated in the 1970s by those dreadful vaccines. Perhaps it should have been left in the safe hands of natural immunity, rather than taint immune systems?

[Woodman]

You're doing a great job of proving my point Drew.

Would you rather he said nothing?

[TheDemonLord]

Or perhaps you are as big a fuckwit as everyone tells you, and a large majority know it.

I forsee an addition to the "According to Drew" Thread....

[Katman]

Would you rather he said nothing?

Fuck no, not when he's doing such a good job of it.

[Drew]

You're doing a great job of proving my point Drew.

I think I presented some stuff that you refuse to see.

So unless your point is that you're a screaming hypocrite, I'm not sure you should use this exchange as an example.

[Katman]

I think I presented some stuff that you refuse to see.

Sorry Drew, you might have to repeat yourself.

I must have missed it.

[Ulsterkiwi]

So universities are being over run by leftyies.
That explains the source of that weak minded dribble they come up with.

Actually, if you look at the make up of the spectrum of political parties in many countries there is a pretty even spread of left and right wing politicians who are university graduates.
Politicians aside its ironic that as well as the accusation you make here we often hear that university is elitist, only serving the wealthy and the powerful conservative element of society. Not the image of a hairy unwashed leftie really is it?
I think what we have is the something akin to the protest about immigrants bludging the welfare system while simultaneously accusing them of stealing jobs from locals. Which is it? It certainly cannot be both!

[TheDemonLord]

Actually, if you look at the make up of the spectrum of political parties in many countries there is a pretty even spread of left and right wing politicians who are university graduates.
Politicians aside its ironic that as well as the accusation you make here we often hear that university is elitist, only serving the wealthy and the powerful conservative element of society. Not the image of a hairy unwashed leftie really is it?
I think what we have is the something akin to the protest about immigrants bludging the welfare system while simultaneously accusing them of stealing jobs from locals. Which is it? It certainly cannot be both!

It's the Social Sciences, the HR departments and the Administrative departments that appear to have a very strong left Bias.