Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

Which was not the claim you said you were addressing, now was it?

I was addressing the claim that vaccines reduced the rate of death per incident.

If you thought I meant anything else, once again, that's your failing.

[Woodman]

Because the massive decrease in the number dying from the disease occurred well before the vaccination became available.

No it didn't The number of people dieing decreased gradually probarbly due to better hospital and medical care and probarbly an increased understanding of the disease.

[bogan]

I was addressing the claim that vaccines reduced the rate of death per incident.

If you thought I meant anything else, once again, that's your failing.

Who was claiming that then? Just grow up KM, the quickest way to become a rational thinker is admit when you are wrong.

[Katman]

No it didn't The number of people dieing decreased gradually probarbly due to better hospital and medical care and probarbly an increased understanding of the disease.

That's what I'm saying.

It didn't decrease due to a vaccine that wasn't even available then.

[Woodman]

If it means fuck all, is there a reason you brought it up?

because I wonder why you even put it up.

[husaberg]

Who was claiming that then? Just grow up KM, the quickest way to become a rational thinker is admit when you are wrong.

The fact he vaccinates his dog proves that................

[bogan]

It didn't decrease due to a vaccine that wasn't even available then.

That insightful conclusion probably didn't need graphtacular support dude

[Katman]

Who was claiming that then? Just grow up KM, the quickest way to become a rational thinker is admit when you are wrong.

People use the "thousands of dead school children" argument as a means to support their rabid pro-vaccine stance.

I'm just pointing out what a retarded argument that is.

[FJRider]

No, it doesn't argue one way or the other for vaccination.

Depends ... would you rather be cured of a serious infectious virus ... or prevented from getting a serious infectious virus ... ???

[Katman]

Depends ... would you rather be cured of a serious infectious virus ... or prevented from getting a serious infectious virus ... ???

I'm happy to rely on my natural immune system.

If you feel yours needs outside help, that's entirely your call.

Anyone who believes that mandatory vaccination is the way forward will be treated like the shitforbrains they clearly are.

[husaberg]

People use the "thousands of dead school children" argument as a means to support their rabid pro-vaccine stance.

I'm just pointing out what a retarded stance that is.

The history of smallpox extends into pre-history; the disease likely emerged in human populations about 10,000 BC. The earliest credible evidence of smallpox is found in the Egyptian mummies of people who died some 3000 years ago. Smallpox has had a major impact on world history, not least because indigenous populations of regions where smallpox was non-native, such as the Americas and Australia, were rapidly decimated and weakened by smallpox (along with other introduced diseases) during periods of initial foreign contact, which helped pave the way for conquest and colonization. During the 18th century the disease killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans each year, including five reigning monarchs, and was responsible for a third of all blindness. Between 20 and 60% of all those infected—and over 80% of infected children—died from the disease
Smallpox was responsible for an estimated 300–500 million deaths during the 20th century.
As recently as 1967, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated that 15 million people contracted the disease and that two million died in that year.After successful vaccination campaigns throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, the WHO certified the global eradication of smallpox in December 1979. Smallpox is one of two infectious diseases to have been eradicated, the other being rinderpest, which was declared eradicated in 2011

[bogan]

People use the "thousands of dead school children" argument as a means to support their rabid pro-vaccine stance.

I'm just pointing out what a retarded stance that is.

No, by comparison you make them sound almost rational. As I explained earlier, counter that point by addressing it and showing how retarded it is, not by putting forward your own retardetry.

[Woodman]

I'm happy to rely on my natural immune system.

If you feel yours needs outside help, that's entirely your call.

Anyone who believes that mandatory vaccination is the way forward will be treated like the shitforbrains they clearly are.

Yet you have just spent the last hour or so arguing for vaccinations

[Katman]

Yet you have just spent the last hour or so arguing for vaccinations

Really?

I think you've mistaken me for someone else.

(Either that or you struggle to understand English).

[husaberg]

Anyone who believes that mandatory vaccination is the way forward will be treated like the shitforbrains they clearly are.

And my dogs are vaccinated.

Yet you vaccinate your dog............ :
Tetanus

The ntroduction of TT vaccines in the 1930s and 1940s, which led to universal childhood immunization and the addition of decennial TT boosters for adults (2,3). A major contributor to the decline in morbidity was the near elimination of neonatal tetanus, a result attributable to improved childbirth practices and to increased levels of maternal immunity resulting from universal childhood vaccination
Reported tetanus cases have declined >95%, and deaths from tetanus have declined >99% in the United States since 1947, when the disease became reportable nationally. CDC analyzed cases reported to the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS) during 2001--2008. This report summarizes the results of that analysis, which found that 233 tetanus cases were reported during 2001--2008; among the 197 cases with known outcomes, the case-fatality rate was 13.2%.
TT vaccination status was reported for 92 (39.5%) of the 233 patients. A total of 37 patients (40.7%) received no TT doses, 26 (28.3%) received 1 dose, five (5.4%) received 3 doses, and 24 (26.1%) received ≥4 doses (Table 2). Among the 36 patients aged ≥50 years, five (13.9%) reported completing the primary 3-dose TT series, compared with 24 (42.9%) of the 56 aged <50 years. Seven (24.1%) of 29 patients with ≥3 doses of TT had received their last dose within 10 years, 18 (62.1%) from 10 to 54 years previously, and four (13.8%) reported an unknown interval since their last dose.