Thinking of moving to a litre bike. R1, Gixxer 1k etc. Which?

[george formby]

If the bikes are inline fours that would explain why they are slow on the bends as they dont have as much low down torque as a twin. I once read that the best racetrack bikes in corners were Ducatis due to the low down torque they have being a twin.

I take it you have not ridden a modern 160hp +, 1000cc, 4 cylinder, sprot bike, lately? I don't find them lacking in anything but I lack the cajones to really get on the gas cranked over. Pretty sure I'm not alone.

My local racer and a couple of mates have gone down the R1 route OP. One of them is currently "unchocking" his for maximum effect and it seems to be making a big difference. They are all happy campers.

[Crasherfromwayback]

than the inline 4 did which had stuff all low down torque.

Get yourself a ride on a GSXR1000K5 then. Then report back to us.

[onearmedbandit]

All I can say is 'oh my god is this for real?'.

[ellipsis]

...I read somewhere that if I put my dick in some kind of plastic thing and then somehow created a vacuum with some kind of pump, my sex life would improve and my dick would get longer and thicker...I didn't need to try it, but it must be true...

[nzspokes]

I have never ridden a modern race inline 4 or a modern racing Ducati but am just basing my view from the story I read about racing Ducatis being better at cornering than racing inline 4s plus my opinion from riding a street inline 4 and an about the same size twin. Lets hope someone who has ridden both a racing inline 4 and a racing Ducati is able to post their opinion of the 2 on here. I will try and find the story about the racing Ducati being the better of the 2 on bends and post a link to it.

Was it written by Jorge?

[nzspokes]

Hmmmmmm, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...1303009030.htm

[SVboy]

OP, the man with the Africa Twin has spoken! if you want to corner well on track only a Ducati will do. Mods, close the thread now!

[Akzle]

I dont know who wrote the article and I have been unable to find it so far but I am not having you guys on that there was an article written about Ducatis being superior at cornering on race tracks due to them being a twin. The article would have been written about 5 years ago and maybe inline 4 technology has improved as far as low down torque ability goes since then.

consult your WOF guy oi.

[onearmedbandit]

I dont know who wrote the article and I have been unable to find it so far but I am not having you guys on that there was an article written about Ducatis being superior at cornering on race tracks due to them being a twin. The article would have been written about 5 years ago and maybe inline 4 technology has improved as far as low down torque ability goes since then.

Apex speed and exit speed are two different things as I'm sure you're aware (if not then I've just written it for you to read so you can assume now that it's fact), and apex speed is not affected by torque.

[nzspokes]

I dont know who wrote the article and I have been unable to find it so far but I am not having you guys on that there was an article written about Ducatis being superior at cornering on race tracks due to them being a twin. The article would have been written about 5 years ago and maybe inline 4 technology has improved as far as low down torque ability goes since then.

Where do you stand on V4 then?

[AllanB]

I just wrote and deleted a lengthy post for Cassina about my experience between my Ducati and previous fours.

I reviewed it, liked it, even thought the real life (road) experience might help Cass understand.

Then deleted it.

I give up.



I still think NZSpokes should buy the KTM

[nzspokes]

Get yourself a ride on a GSXR1000K5 then. Then report back to us.

Serious question then, are the k5/k6 that much better? Say if I was to choose between a k5 or a k9? Not ridden either so cant compare.

And way bigger question, does ABS suck on track?

[Zedder]

I give up.

That's totally understandable. I've considered undergoing counselling and have only been involved in a couple of threads!

[SVboy]

I put the K5/6 upas it has a fabulous reputation. I have never ridden a 1000cc superbike so my comments are hearsay. The K5 is known for delivering its power in lower to mid range, with an abundance of torque. Great chassis and ok brakes. Most recall faults should have been addressed. They hold their money big time.
I gather the K7/8 have their power much higher in the rev range, making them harder work . Drew is probably the go to guy re Gixxers.
Kawasakis of this era, just no! So many factory geometry and suspension faults the rider needs to correct. Yamahas, do your research. Again I think the 2008 on are a rev monster until the Big Bang model.

Ps, you already own the king of sports bikes! Ride it faster.

[Gremlin]

A mate had a K6 1000. Said 185+ possible in first, and when I rode it, I could do 4th gear at 40kph through a roundabout and it would pull away. Decided at that point gears were probably pretty useless