Should new tyres really be that slippery!!

[old slider]

least you get know how it's going to handle when things are warmed up and sticky

So where back to knowing when are they too old and need throwing out. lol

when young or fairly new getting warmed up and sticky didn't take long, but when its old it takes forever to warm up and most of the sticky has gone.

[caspernz]

least you get know how it's going to handle when things are warmed up and sticky

So where back to knowing when are they too old and need throwing out. lol

when young or fairly new getting warmed up and sticky didn't take long, but when its old it takes forever to warm up and most of the sticky has gone.

Somewhere in here is a joke about how the girlfriend turns into her mother, given the passage of time...but I'm too innocent to go there

[T.W.R]

So where back to knowing when are they too old and need throwing out. lol

when young or fairly new getting warmed up and sticky didn't take long, but when its old it takes forever to warm up and most of the sticky has gone.

When they're past their best they get a bit frayed around the edges, cracks start to appear & no matter how hard you try you can't get the buggers to warm to the occasion

but I'm too innocent to go there

Pleading that around here wont work

[old slider]

When they're past their best they get a bit frayed around the edges, cracks start to appear & no matter how hard you try you can't get the buggers to warm to the occasion



Pleading that around here wont work

Lol, its even worse if you try to use the back roads.

[GazzaH]

Is he talking about tyres or women?

[T.W.R]

Lol, its even worse if you try to use the back roads.

Take heed of this

Watch out for skid marks...

[pritch]

I haven't noticed a problem with new tyres myself but how do you people who scrub tyres scrub the sides? I mean how can you take it easy when you are on the edge of the tyre?

Cheers

I usually use a route that contains winding and or hill roads and do the outward journey at a conservative pace. The trip home is done a little less gently and although there are still generous chicken strips, by the time I get home enough of the tyre shows wear that I can just ride normally from then on.

I don't know how long this takes, maybe 45 minutes.

[AllanB]

I usually use a route that contains winding and or hill roads and do the outward journey at a conservative pace. The trip home is done a little less gently and although there are still generous chicken strips, by the time I get home enough of the tyre shows wear that I can just ride normally from then on.

I don't know how long this takes, maybe 45 minutes.

I've applied the above for 36 years of riding and never had a issue.

I'ts all about getting heat into the tyres.

[YellowDog]

I've applied the above for 36 years of riding and never had a issue.

I'ts all about getting heat into the tyres.

This what I have been trying to get across

[rastuscat]

Some figure 8s at low speed gets rid of the Silicon fairly quickly.

Plenty of low speed lean angle.

[Honest Andy]

figure of eights as per YellowDog's avitar...?

[MarkH]

I've never had a problem with new tyres, never found them to be particularly slippery.

I do take it a bit easy for the first hundred kms - start braking a bit earlier, accelerate a bit more gently and slow a bit more before entering corners. But otherwise I just ride on the tyres and they scrub in just fine as I go. I usually ride familiar roads like bike shop to home, home to work, work back to home. One day of home to work to home again is 70km which is enough to mostly scrub in a new tyre, a second day and the tyres are just fine. By the third day of going to work I'm going through the corners a bit faster to get more lean angle to scrub in the sides more and it is all feeling fine.

I don't recall ever having the slightest moment of tyre slip due to new tyres.
Currently going with Michelin PR4GT tyres but I've used Bridgestone T30 tyres as well also with no problem.
When I had the Burgman 400 (when I was riding around Auckland city) I used Bridgestone hoops and Metzler tyres with no issues.

In the description of events on the OP I was surprised at someone taking it very easy and losing traction, maybe new tyres + painted road marking can be enough to explain that? This could be more a case of understanding best technique for dealing with painted lines on the road than dealing with new tyres. I always try to avoid riding along the painted lines, preferring to quickly cross the lines to have the length of time with tyres on the paint as short as possible so that any slip is for a brief moment only.

[scumdog]

Watch out for skid marks...

Is HE back on this forum??

[Gremlin]

Depends on the tyre. Sports tyres are more prone to losing grip through heat cycles than say, touring tyres.

I remember running Pirelli Scorpion Syncs circa 2008-2010. Those buggers felt real weird for 10-20km as I slowly weaved my way to more grip. Pilot Road 3/4 now are pretty good straight out of the shop. Dual purpose tyres almost always need a good gravel scrub before they're good to go. Even 1000km of road doesn't make them feel as happy as tearing up and down some gravel throwing in some good hard braking in deep gravel.

[eldog]

''The back wheel suddenly lost traction and slid out to the left. When a bike does shit like that, instinctively you should let it do it's own thing, there is very good chance it will right itself.

Letting the bike do its own thing ok,
then what should a rider do with the throttle and clutch?
while the bike corrects itself?

does it depend on the situation?

what sort of response does a bike do, given different rider input?

will it depend on the tyre?, tyre/road temp, road condition wet, oily, tar bleed, gravel, normal

some difference would be found on bike size/weight and the design, size, construction of the tyre?