MotoGP 2017

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would say he still be more pissed he fell off in france because with that second place he threw away, Would have had him still leading the points table even with this weekends result.

Yeah...but they've all had dnf's. Apart from Dovi, which is great after his last year of being cleaned out all the time.

[husaberg]

Yeah...but they've all had dnf's. Apart from Dovi, which is great after his last year of being cleaned out all the time.

Yeah but how many threw it away going for the win on the last lap this season when it was pretty irelevent, other than for his ego, I'd say that will haunt him.
It needs to be remembered in the last 21 seasons he has only finished lower than 3rd on the points table 5 times. one of those was his rookie year. two on the Ducati and his 4th on 2013.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It needs to be remembered in the last 21 seasons he has only finished lower than 3rd on the points table 5 times. one of those was his rookie year. two on the Ducati and his 4th on 2013.

Aye. I think only a blind man would argue he's not fucking amzing. But, I still don't think he'll win a 10th, and I still think his nine titles will be beaten. Prob by MM at this rate. I thought Mav was gonna fuck off and smoke them all this season. But the cracks have appeared.

[BMWST?]

Aye. I think only a blind man would argue he's not fucking amzing. But, I still don't think he'll win a 10th, and I still think his nine titles will be beaten. Prob by MM at this rate. I thought Mav was gonna fuck off and smoke them all this season. But the cracks have appeared.

I still got a lot of time for MV If things are good it seems he is as fast as anyone.He has just got to calm down a bit and try to qualfy a bit better .He has very high expectations of himself and like another young fella thinks everyone should stay outa his way!

[husaberg]

Aye. I think only a blind man would argue he's not fucking amzing. But, I still don't think he'll win a 10th, and I still think his nine titles will be beaten. Prob by MM at this rate. I thought Mav was gonna fuck off and smoke them all this season. But the cracks have appeared.

Well If he throws it away chasing 5 points instead of twenty he certainly won't win another.
Even if MM somehow wins ten he still won't go anywhere near Vales tally of wins or his immense global popularity.
Theres a reason Vale is rated along with Hailwood and Ago.
Maybe the Yamaha is not as good as people expect it to be. they have had a lot of success and Honda will likely be far hungier as a result.
But if MM wants to be regarded as a all time great he needs to move to another team and then still continue to win. Or decimate the oposition, ala Doohan.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Even if MM somehow wins ten he still won't go anywhere near Vales tally of wins

But if MM wants to be regarded as a all time great he needs to move to another team and then still continue to win. Or decimate the oposition, ala Doohan.

Ummm..how do you work that out? He's already smashed all sorts of records?

And who really cares about changing teams that much? Winning titles for Honda when it's quite obviously not the best bike is a better feat in my opinion. And decimate the opposition? Have you even been watching the last few seasons?

[husaberg]

Ummm..how do you work that out? He's already smashed all sorts of records?

And who really cares about changing teams that much? Winning titles for Honda when it's quite obviously not the best bike is a better feat in my opinion. And decimate the opposition? Have you even been watching the last few seasons?

I certainly have, it didn't look like decimation. 12 wins in three years, Doohan won every race bar 3 in 97 he was second in 2 and DNF one. thats decimation.
What makes you think the Honda is not the best bike.
Changing teams shows guts, it also proves it not the bike.
For instance Jorge is still tha same rider as last year, only the results on the ducati would make you wonder if he was...............

[Crasherfromwayback]

I certainly have, it didn't look like decimation. 12 wins in three years ..

You're obviously not talking about MM then. I was.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What makes you think the Honda is not the best bike.
..

Oh...and maybe because hardly any cunt has won fuck all on it in the last few seasons? And newbies can come into the class on the Yamaha and do so well? If you seriously want to tell me the Honda is the best package and has been the whole time MM has been with them...you need to stay of the bong cabbage.

[Reckless]

Maybe the Yamaha is not as good as people expect it to be.

Nail on the head that statement. Combined with MM freakish ability on the Honda.
I think the Yammy 2016 is better as Zarco Now Folga are demonstrating.
Damn good championship tho! 4 riders 10 points apart can't complain

Rossi: No matter what the numbers end up being Rossi will be the goat of our time just because he's Rossi.
Might even be still in a top team at 40, bloody unheard of in modern times. Then sometime after that the young guns will have shot him down and he'll be running the Sky team.

Racing in all classes has been top notch

Month off now wtf thats not on

[husaberg]

You're obviously not talking about MM then. I was.

From start of 2015 to now, ie tha last 3 years he has only won 12 races ..........
here is MM's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_M%C3%A1rquez
here is Doohans record
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Doohan

Oh...and maybe because hardly any cunt has won fuck all on it in the last few seasons? And newbies can come into the class on the Yamaha and do so well? If you seriously want to tell me the Honda is the best package and has been the whole time MM has been with them...you need to stay of the bong cabbage.

Yamaha philosophy has been to build bikes that are easy to ride with smooth power that are easy on tires.
Honda builds missles.
As for the other Honda riders, pretty sure Pedro would have the same inconsistant results on any bike.
How he keeps his works ride, i would say has more to do with sponsorship politics than with talent or results.
IMO Stick Viñales or Dovi on a Honda and there would be day light to second place.

[Moise]

MM looked slightly buggered during the post race interview, which I've never seen before. I'd say he had to work hard for that win.

This might be a key moment in the championship. MM might not win many more races, but you can bet he'll always be in the top 3 or 4. I can't see any of the others doing that.

Very impressive ride from Folger. Those 2 were in a class of their own, although Dani looked fast until his rear tyre went weird.



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[Crasherfromwayback]

From start of 2015 to now, ie tha last 3 years he has only won 12 races ..........
here is MM's
.

Ummmm...you're comparing MM's last three seasons, yet Rossi's entire career? Why don't you compare the records set by both? What about percentages of Moto GP races started vs wins? Talk about cherry picking to suit an agenda.

[Crasherfromwayback]

From start of 2015 to now, ie tha last 3 years he has only won 12 races ..........
.

Because I know you love stats.

Records


Most pole positions in Moto2 Class: 14 (shared with Pol Espargaró and Johann Zarco)
Most podium finishes in Moto2 Class: 25
Most podium finishes in a single season in Moto2 Class: 14
Most wins in Moto2 Class: 16
Most wins in a single season in Moto2 Class: 9
Fastest crash in MotoGP: 209 mph (336 km/h) (2nd practice Mugello 2013)[101]
Youngest pole position in Premier Class: 20 years, 62 days (COTA USA 2013)[1]
Youngest winner in Premier Class: 20 years, 63 days (COTA USA 2013)[1]
Youngest rider to take successive podium positions in the Premier Class: 20 years, 63 days (Qatar, COTA USA 2013)[1]
Youngest rider to take a fastest lap in the Premier Class: 20 years, 49 days (Qatar 2013)[1]
4 successive podium positions in first 4 Premier Class Grands Prix (shared with Max Biaggi)[1]
Most wins as a teenager in all classes: 26
Youngest Spanish rider to take a pole position: 16 years, 88 days (France 2009)
Most pole positions in a season of 125cc World Championship: 12
Youngest rider to win 5 successive Grands Prix: (Mugello, Silverstone, Assen, Barcelona, Sachsenring 2010)
Youngest rider to lead the Premier Class championship: 20 years, 63 days (COTA USA 2013)[1]
Youngest rider to win at least 1 race in 3 classes of GP Racing
Márquez won in Germany for the fourth successive year in 2013 across three different classes; in 2010 he was competing in the 125 class, in 2011 and 2012 the Moto2 class and in 2013 in MotoGP. He is the first rider of the modern era to win at the same circuit for four successive years across three different classes. Also adding a 5th, 6th ,7th and 8th consecutive German GP win in the MotoGP class in 2014, 2015 , 2016 and 2017.
First/only rookie to win at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.
Youngest rider to win 4 races back to back in Premier Class: 20 years, 189 days (Germany-USA-Indianapolis-Czech Republic 2013)[1]
First rookie to win 4 races back to back in Premier Class: (Germany-USA-Indianapolis-Czech Republic 2013)[1]
Youngest rider to set fastest times in every session from a Premier Class GP Weekend: (Indianapolis 2013)
Most wins as a rookie in Premier Class: 6[1]
Most pole positions as a rookie in Premier Class: 9[1]
Most podium finishes in rookie season of Premier Class: 16[1]
Most podium finishes in single season of Premier Class: 16 (Shared with Valentino Rossi, Casey Stoner & Jorge Lorenzo)
Most points scored as a rookie in Premier Class: 334[1]
Youngest rider to take back to back pole positions in Premier Class (Silverstone-Misano 2013)
Youngest rider to take four pole positions in a row in Premier Class (Silverstone-Misano-Aragon-Malaysia 2013)
First rookie to take 4 consecutive pole positions in Premier Class
Youngest rider to win the title in Premier Class: 20 years, 266 days[1]
First rider to win Intermediate Class and Premier Class titles back to back
2nd rookie to win Premier Class title (after Kenny Roberts in 1978)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 2 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 3 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 4 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 5 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 6 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 7 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 8 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya-Netherlands 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 9 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya-Netherlands-Germany 2014)
First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 10 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya-Netherlands-Germany-Indianapolis 2014)
Most Pole Positions from Start Of Season in 4 Stroke MotoGP (2002–) era: 6
Youngest Rider to win 5 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 90 days
Youngest Rider to win 6 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 104 days
Youngest Rider to win 7 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 118 days
Youngest Rider to win 8 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 131 days
Youngest Rider to win 9 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 146 days
Youngest Rider to win 10 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 174 days
Youngest Rider to win 11 races in a single season in Premier Class: 21 years, 205 days
Only rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win 6 successive Premier Class races from Pole
Most points scored in First 10 races of Premier Class season: 250
Most Consecutive race wins in Premier Class in 4 Stroke MotoGP (2002–) era: 10
Most Consecutive race wins in a single Premier Class season (1949–) era: 10 (Shared with Mick Doohan and Giacomo Agostini)
Youngest rider to win back to back championships in Premier Class: 21 years, 237 days
Only Honda rider to clinch Premier Class championship at Honda's Motegi circuit
Only Spanish rider to win 2 titles back to back in Premier Class
Youngest rider to take 12 Pole positions in a single season in Premier Class: 21 years, 243 days
Only rider to take 13 Pole positions in a single season in Premier Class
Youngest rider to win 12 races in a single season: 21 years, 251 days
Most Races won in a single season in Premier Class: 13
One of only pair of brothers to win Grand Prix motorcycle racing world championships, with Álex Márquez[102]
Most Fastest laps in a MotoGP season: 12 (shared with Valentino Rossi)
Most wins (consecutive from 2013 to 2017 ) at the Circuit of the Americas: 5[71]
Most consecutive pole positions at the Circuit of the Americas : 5
First/Only Rider in history to win 8 consecutive times in the same circuit
Most consecutive wins at Sachsenring Circuit: 8
Most consecutive pole positions at Sachsenring Circuit: 8
Most consecutive wins at Indianapolis Circuit: 5
Youngest rider in the history of world motorcycling to get 50 wins: 22 years, 243 days
Most Pole Positions in history of motorcycling ever: 68
Youngest rider to get 5 World Championship Titles (23 years and 242 days)
Youngest rider to get 3 World Championship Titles in MotoGp Premier Class (23 years and 242 days)

You're right. He's got fuck all records to his name.

[Moise]

It's easy to get carried away with stats, but greatness is more then just how many races and championships you win.

Schumacher set all sorts of records in F1, but for a number of years from when Hakinnen retired until Alonso came along, he had no serious opposition.

You can see something similar in Rossi's career. With all respect to Nicky Hayden, there was no one to seriously challenge Rossi until Stoner came along.

Marquez however is now racing in the most competitive and unpredictable premier motorsport class ever. If he continues to win championships consistently over the next few seasons, then that will be something very special.

Here's a stat Rossi fans never mention - most seasons in MotoGP by a multiple world champion without winning a championship. Seven and counting ...

Shit, we'll miss him though. Le Mans and Assen this year were epic.

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