The 2017 Election Thread

[TheDemonLord]

No. You care for tennis?
I have been working away, i will need time to go through the 50 odd (likely more) pages of your rather long winded posts to find it.

It starts at about page 70, and I had a check (incase I'd missed a word or biff typed something) - you can't cite it, cause I didn't say it.

[TheDemonLord]

The studies fail it's requirements, most notably in the isolation of changed variables. Thus it fails to establish any sort of relative likelihood. The proposed theory one is obviously failing that definition as well. It would also behoove you to cite the source of said definition.

What have I stated as fact?

The only variable that was changed was Gender.

Try again.

[Ocean1]

You just don't get it now do you. You should asses an individual on their merits not their gender, their religon, colour, sexual preference hair colour etc etc.

A lot more than that, in fact. Skill, diligence, training, childishly rabid socialist beliefs, and gender.

This, in the certain knowledge that in the real world men and women are very different, have different abilities, behaviour. Believe otherwise all you like, I'm done here.

[Ocean1]

Why? And we're not talking 100m sprints here right? Are you just that bitter and twisted about Jacinda becoming PM, that you've totally lost your shit?

If the job involves sprinting then why would you ignore the ability to sprint?

I have no problem whatsoever with a female head of state. Slightly miffed at a minority socialist outfit though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Slightly miffed at a minority socialist outfit though.

Someone needs to look up the word *minority*.

[Swoop]

Are you just that bitter and twisted about Jacinda becoming PM, that you've totally lost your shit?

Anyone is entitled to be.
The left whine incessantly when they don't get their way (democrats in Murica still going after a whole year) and after national got in there were the same levels of bleating from NZ's socialist/communist groups here.

Sad to see the vindictive brigade are pulling labour's strings now, with charter schools getting attention from the teacher's union. So much for "helping the kids" though.

Keep a good eye on all those promises the made to buy votes... "Fixing the housing crisis" is not looking good for them.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. "Fixing the housing crisis" is not looking good for them.

Yeah well, at least they aim to try. National said there wasn't one, so bit hard to fix with that attitude eh?

[husaberg]

A lot more than that, in fact. Skill, diligence, training, childishly rabid socialist beliefs, and gender.

This, in the certain knowledge that in the real world men and women are very different, have different abilities, behaviour. Believe otherwise all you like, I'm done here.

As i said on their individual merits. So what you have already said, is that no mater how good an individual is at their job if they don't fit your particular preconcieived gender defined rules. They are clearly in your opinion no good.

Mate, I've worked with female fencers, and based on the resulting evidence I'd not hire a female to do that job. And given that it's my money that's paying for the job I'll make whatever choice I please.

Yeah that clearly showed no bias on your part
So you are taking boring old Bills falling on the sword a bit tuff Ocean.

[Swoop]

Yeah well, at least they aim to try. National said there wasn't one, so bit hard to fix with that attitude eh?

Work was progressing on it. Why would anyone hold onto 1/4 acre sections with a small state house (2, perhaps 3 bedrooms?) on it? Madness. The same thing when a state house is occupied with one person when the rest of the family has grown up and moved away. They then get their whine happening when told to move out so another family can live there ("it's MY house!!!" is all you hear).
Reinvest properties into something that can accommodate more people.
Sadly there is a mentality that everyone "needs" a large section, when we need to be providing roofs over heads for those in need.

As for the nonsensical approach of "freeing up more land for housing"? How stupid. Councils need to build UPwards, not outwards, but they don't like that because they miss out on raping ratepayers for land value.
Secondly is the affect of public transport. Denser housing combines to justify improving public transport systems like light rail or eventually underground rail.

The long term planning ability of government and council is pathetic.


As for Twyford demanding "more Hobsonvilles" goes to show how silly he is. Hobsonville is seeing people wanting to get the hell out of there because it isn't what was planned (for over a decade's worth of planning!).

[Graystone]

The only variable that was changed was Gender.

Try again.

That's my point, they did not isolate causal variables, so they cannot conclude anything about the cause. This is basic scientific principals mate, correlation does not equal causation. Nullius in verba.

[jasonu]

Work was progressing on it. Why would anyone hold onto 1/4 acre sections with a small state house (2, perhaps 3 bedrooms?) on it? Madness. The same thing when a state house is occupied with one person when the rest of the family has grown up and moved away. They then get their whine happening when told to move out so another family can live there ("it's MY house!!!" is all you hear).
Reinvest properties into something that can accommodate more people.
Sadly there is a mentality that everyone "needs" a large section, when we need to be providing roofs over heads for those in need.

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Dam straight. You want a big section then buy one yourself. Sell all the Remuera and Epsom million dollar state houses and buy 3 (or more) for one new properties in Otara. They can fuck off down there and if they don't like it, tough titties.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So you National Sad Sacks accuse Jacinda of being a liar. Didn't I hear Old Billy Boy, just the other day, categorically state he was NOT going to stand down?

Bye bye Billy!!! Ya fucking sad sack loser!!

[Ocean1]

Yeah that clearly showed no bias on your part

Correct. It shows the benefit of evidence from experience in the ability of female fencers. Which isn't really anything like bias at all, is it?

But, and I can't stress this enough: you go hire a whole slew of females and get out there and make a killing in the fencing line, dude. Back your shit up with your own money. I suggest you pay them according to their productive output.

[husaberg]

Correct. It shows the benefit of evidence from experience in the ability of female fencers. Which isn't really anything like bias at all, is it?

But, and I can't stress this enough: you go hire a whole slew of females and get out there and make a killing in the fencing line, dude. Back your shit up with your own money. I suggest you pay them according to their productive output.

So as you have stated you have no bias, then you have experienced the quality of work from every female fencer then.
Otherwise ....... (actually, I sincerly doubt you are able to join the dots on that one either)
Ps fencers (like shearers) are paid on the quantity of work, if you knew f-all about fencing in the first place.
You would have actually known that.


Thus it mght be better to stick to stuff you know well, like feeling aggrieved that a female is running the country again instead of Bill English.
You should be well used to that its not like its the first time its happened.
So have you been on the phone to Don Brash yet? Hes traditionally next in line when Bill quits after losing an election isn't he?

[Grumph]

Correct. It shows the benefit of evidence from experience in the ability of female fencers. Which isn't really anything like bias at all, is it?

But, and I can't stress this enough: you go hire a whole slew of females and get out there and make a killing in the fencing line, dude. Back your shit up with your own money. I suggest you pay them according to their productive output.

Well, two things here....

One - the daughter of an old friend represented NZ in fencing - I wouldn't have liked to go against her even with a longer foil....

Two - the main local fencing contractor is a husband and wife team - and she's the driving force. I wouldn't go against her in any circumstance. If pinetree had been up against her carting posts in the classic ad, she'd have shown him up.