Well wouldn't this make motorcycling much more fun

[Voltaire]

According to wiki.

Half of the world's road traffic deaths occur among motorcyclists (23 percent), pedestrians (22 percent) and cyclists (5 percent) – i.e., "vulnerable road users" – with 31 percent of deaths among car occupants and the remaining 19 percent among unspecified road users.[3]

Adults aged between 15 and 44 years account for 59 percent of global road traffic deaths. Seventy-seven percent of road deaths are males.[3]

Opportunity for over 44 year old female taxi drivers there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

[AllanB]

According to wiki.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

Need more info - mainly what percentage of the worlds 'traffic' is motorcycles, cars, taxis etc. I should look it up - I'm thinking motorcycles will be way up there due to hundreds of millions of Asians and the likes relying on small motorcycles as primary transport.

[FJRider]

Drive / ride to the conditions.

This is the bit many simply don't get. The only bit they DO understand is that if they are 4 km/hr over the limit they might get a ticket.

With four inches of snow on the road or pissing down rain ... they're sitting at the limit.



But in ALL the adds on tv ... the 100 km/hr speed sign is prominent. And that's the bit they remember.

[Scubbo]

... With four inches of snow on the road or pissing down rain ... they're sitting at the limit .

cause the limit is still the artificial cap shirely....

[caspernz]

Meh, we've got as much chance of getting a 70 km/h national limit as wildly higher driver licensing standards. Political suicide either way. Baby steps will have to do...

[nerrrd]

I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it

If the traffic in Auckland can't cope with the 80kph limited sections on the motorway (you really have to be careful if you don't want a ticket not to be run over from behind by either SUVs or double cab utes, neither of which will slow down for anybody) good luck with this.

Around town here it might as well be 30-40kph, there's so many slow drivers already.

Anyway it was an international report, mostly just an opportunity for discussion.

[AllanB]

The only bit they DO understand is that if they are 4 km/hr over the limit they might get a ticket.

What - it's a limit, not a get there as quick as possible target?

[Scuba_Steve]

Why have speed changes, why not just make everything 50km/h?
That way no-one will ever have to think ["what speed is this road"]

[Wannabiker]

[QUOTE=nerrrd;1131091963]I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it


Yep.. in 1973 the speed limit was 80km/h and that years road toll was a record 843. In 1985 the speed limit was raised to 100km/h and the road toll dropped to 747. Therefore showing a 20km/h raising of the speed limit saved almost 100 lives. We could further reduce the road toll by raising the limit further.

From the Transport website, using the 1973 figures that accident rate would now be 1900 people annually (given the population increase and number of cars on the road)...

[Woodman]

Why does it take an international study to come to the obvious conclusion that if everyone drove modern safe cars at a maximum 70km/HR that the road toll will come down.

[Grumph]

There is a potential danger here as I see it. The Govt is talking about the lower limits being required on "local roads" ie - not State Highways.
These are maintained by councils. The limits are set by councils.
If a council can see a way to save money on maintenance by lowering the limit on a road, does anyone want to bet they won't lower the limit ?

Locally the SDC has been using working parties to try and decide on lowering limits on some rural roads for a while now. This is a council who own some of the longest, straightest roads in NZ. It's also a council who have probably the worst maintenance record of any in NZ.

I can see my trip to town - on, yes, a long straight road, currently about 75km of it in 100kph zones, being turned into purgatory fairly soon.

[Voltaire]

[QUOTE=Wannabiker;1131091969]

I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it


Yep.. in 1973 the speed limit was 80km/h and that years road toll was a record 843. In 1985 the speed limit was raised to 100km/h and the road toll dropped to 747. Therefore showing a 20km/h raising of the speed limit saved almost 100 lives. We could further reduce the road toll by raising the limit further.

From the Transport website, using the 1973 figures that accident rate would now be 1900 people annually (given the population increase and number of cars on the road)...

I wonder if that had anything to do with seatbelts:

Feb 9, 2015 - Cars registered after January 1, 1965, had to be fitted with front seatbelts, but it wasn't compulsory to wear them until 10 years later. Between times, New Zealanders either wore them, sat on them, or left them dangling from a hook on the B-pillar. From January 1, 1975, occupants up front by law had to buckle up.

The road toll is also probably lower due to advances in car design emergency and medical services too.
I went for a ride in a mates MK3 Zephyr a couple of years ago, at 100KPH it sort of wallowed around the bends...I was glad to get out.

[Taxythingy]

... the vagina in a dashboard accessory...

Sorry officer, I crashed the ute after reading this comment on my phone and hunting for it. Not my fault, really.

[russd7]

It was 80 on the open road when I started riding way back in 1980 (due to a global fuel crisis if I remember?) but the cops were good bastards and just gave you a warning most of the time if you were doing 100-110 instead of 80. I think they just enjoyed getting to stick the boot down on the old Holdens and flash the lights.

not in the BOP they weren't, The MOT were pricks, especially the one in Te Puke, he gave me a ticket and made me push my bike home for no rear vision mirror and the broken mirror and bits of glass were in the the tool pouch on the back of my old XR250, then another ticket i got was deserved at 110 in an 80, I was on my way to a wedding in rottenrua and was running late but fair cop it was, but i asked for directions to the church and when i came out here he was sittin across the road from the church then he followed us round to the after function venue.

[russd7]

add to the drop in speed limit a 10 cent rise in fuel tax, add goat shit tax and that becomes 11.5cent increase to build more cycleways. fuckem, start makin them user pay