Calling all conspiracy theorists - do you believe in this one?

**Graystone** · 5th May 2018, 16:42

Originally Posted by Katman

As you're probably well aware, there are a number of happenings these days where I question whether we're being told the truth or not, ... shows just how well the propaganda machine is working.

FTFY

The irony is delicious

**YellowDog** · 5th May 2018, 16:48

Originally Posted by BMWST?

add the flat eathers to your list of theorists

Andrew Flintoff is a Flat Earther, so it must be true

No hint of drugs or alcohol influencing his mind

**Katman** · 5th May 2018, 16:56

Originally Posted by Graystone

FTFY

The irony is delicious

It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you never question any story you're told by an official source - even if it's a story that you could drive a truck through it's many holes.

**Oakie** · 5th May 2018, 17:07

Ha ha. This thread is going way better than I thought it would. Terrorist worms! Never thought of that.

**Oakie** · 5th May 2018, 17:15

Originally Posted by OddDuck

Unfortunately good luck getting a chemtrail believer to seriously consider this sort of counterargument. They can see the contrails, they feel the fear, bingo, now it's believable. And that's it, anything you say, they'll get their backs up and then it's argument time.

Yep. He bit like a big fish.
"Anyone that believes they are contrails and not chem trails is highly indoctrinated. Just because they use the word scientist doesn't mean they are right!!!" (This last bit was in reference to 76 scientists in a group of 77 saying there was no evidence to support the theory).

I thought about responding something along the lines of believing 76 scientists ahead of a home gardener in matters of science but then thought - head / brick wall so just left it.

**MarkH** · 5th May 2018, 18:01

Originally Posted by Katman

As you're probably well aware, there are a number of happenings these days where I question whether we're being told the truth or not

What you are describing: https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/...ments/paranoia
You should seek help.

**Woodman** · 5th May 2018, 19:16

Originally Posted by Katman

As you're probably well aware, there are a number of happenings these days where I question whether we're being told the truth or not, but to try suggesting that anyone who questions 9/11 or alleged gas attacks automatically subscribes to a flat earth theory shows just how well the propaganda machine is working.

The mere fact that you think that the propoganda machine is making people think that 9/11 etc questioners are flat earthers tells me that the propoganda machine is definitely working, just not the one you are thinking of.

**GazzaH** · 5th May 2018, 19:54

Does anyone here still believe in god?

If so, which one?

**Akzle** · 5th May 2018, 19:55

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worms_2

Originally Posted by Oakie

Conspiracy theorists ... you know who you are.

My own take is that conspiracy theorists often believe in multiple conspiracies. So you'll believe that 9/11 was an inside job, that man never landed on the moon, that Monsanto is taking over the world seed supplies, the Crown ordered Princess Diana's accident etc.

are you suggesting that any of those things happened according to "the official story"?

**ellipsis** · 5th May 2018, 20:59

Originally Posted by GazzaH

Does anyone here still believe in god?

If so, which one?

...yeah of course...I berieve in dogs...there is one next door...barks every 14.2 seconds...I can't kill it...the little girls who own it wouldn't like me anymore...life is complex at times...I'd like to nail the cunt to a fence but that would always come back to haunt you...

**eldog** · 5th May 2018, 21:49

Originally Posted by MarkH

You should seek Cassina for your answers.

Fixed it for ya.

**Oakie** · 5th May 2018, 22:58

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...yeah of course...I berieve in dogs...there is one next door...barks every 14.2 seconds...I can't kill it...the little girls who own it wouldn't like me anymore...life is complex at times...I'd like to nail the cunt to a fence but that would always come back to haunt you...

One bit my courier daughter on the arm and lip today so she elbowed it in the throat and made it run away. Tough my wee girl.

**husaberg** · 5th May 2018, 23:38

Originally Posted by GazzaH

Does anyone here still believe in god?

If so, which one?

Conspiracy theory is the new religion.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...f-the-911-case
Last night, I watched a National Geographic television show titled 9/11: Science and Conspiracy(link is external). As I listened to the conspiracists, I was struck by the similarities between their belief systems and associated cognitive processes (or lack thereof) and those inherent to religious narratives. Let me explain.

(1) Both religion and grand conspiracies are immune from reason and both are impervious to evidentiary standards. Irrespective of all of the evidence in support of what actually happened on 9/11, and despite any evidence in support of the endless conspiracy storylines (many of which are contradictory with one another), the conspiracists hold on to their firm beliefs. Even when a given conspiratorial statement (e.g., "jet fuel cannot weaken iron") is refuted via a controlled scientific experiment, the evidence is dismissed as suspect, irrelevant, or better yet, the experimenters are apparently in on the conspiracy!

(2) Both religion and grand conspiracies ascribe great power to "invisible" forces. In the case of the 9/11 conspiracies, these shadowy puppet masters are one of several possible groups including the New World Order, the American government/military complex, the Illuminati, the Jews, the Zionists, George Bush (who is apparently controlled by an evil group of neo-cons), oil companies, and real estate moguls (many of whom are Jewish).

(3) These "invisible" forces appear to be as omnipotent as are Gods in the various religious traditions. For example, it has been estimated that the most basic version of the various strands of 9/11 conspiracies would require a level of unimaginable coordination between at the very least several thousand people. Incredibly, not a single individual within the conspiracy has ever broken silence. Such is the power of the conspirators.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...013.00424/full
http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/...190466176-e-14
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/c...-35028073.html