Calling all conspiracy theorists - do you believe in this one?

[Katman]

If we are talking about 'climate engineering' which is the specific meaning, I accept the theory, I accept that it is possible and that it was seriously explored. I accept that it is still being looked at in relation to mitigating greenhouse gasses and global warming.

It is far more than 'being looked at'.

It has been openly admitted to.

Therefore, you can't know for certain what those trails in the sky might contain.

[Viking01]

I was thinking on this very thing - and I think I can put forward an explanation as to why in the historical record - we see that Extreme left wing always produces a Dictator and the Extreme right only sometimes does.

Just to advance the discussion, how about you assemble a short list of countries (or instances)
where you think a right wing dictatorship existed or currently exist ? Just for point of comparison.

Cheers

[sugilite:Me]

Actually ice crystals. Water vapour exits the jet engine and turns to ice crystals due to the extreme cold up there. Essentially it is a high level cloud which is why they hang about a bit.

And then get over 20 km's wide?

[TheDemonLord]

Just to advance the discussion, how about you assemble a short list of countries (or instances)
where you think a right wing dictatorship existed or currently exist ? Just for point of comparison.

Cheers

Off the top of my Head:

Mussilini, Franco, Hitler*, Pinochet, Oliveira Salazar, Peron, I'll also include the Brazillian Junta and I'll include Duvalier**

There's quite a few listed that existed around the time of WW2, which I'm not including as whilst technically 'dictators' - it was due to a state of emergency ( such as Vichy France).

*Hitler is interesting since the name Nazi means National Socialist - and he certainly implemented a number of policies that were Socialist in Nature.

**For him, I'm not sure exactly what his policies were, but according to the US, they considered him to be opposed to Communism (so left him alone) so I'll include him here

For the left:

Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, The Kim Dynasty, Ceaușescu, Milošević, Hoxha, Ortega, Chavez and Maduro - You've also got all the Arab Socialists - Assad, Hussein, Gaddafi, Berdimuhammedow - and then the African ones: Sékou Touré, Eduardo dos Santos, Mugabe etc.

Now, for clarity - some of those had Socialist or Communist leanings secondary to other ideological systems - but I've only included those whose affiliations were explicitly socialist/communist. I've also tried to include only those that held power for a decent amount of time (more than 5 years - ie one election cycle).

[Graystone]

And then get over 20 km's wide?

Inadvertant cloud seeding.

The other side to the question, is just how much evil stuff would a plane have to be dropping for it to disperse into a cloud 20km wide? The tanks would be immense!

[MarkH]

Inadvertant cloud seeding.

The other side to the question, is just how much evil stuff would a plane have to be dropping for it to disperse into a cloud 20km wide? The tanks would be immense!

And what would it cost the airline in extra fuel alone?

[Laava]

And then get over 20 km's wide?

So what is it that they are spraying. Be specific.

[george formby]

20kms wide. How do you measure a cloud?

[Graystone]

20kms wide. How do you measure a cloud?

From one side of its shadow to the other?

[Oakie]

Inadvertant cloud seeding.

The other side to the question, is just how much evil stuff would a plane have to be dropping for it to disperse into a cloud 20km wide? The tanks would be immense!

And that pretty much is the nail in the coffin as far as doing it in secret is concerned. How do you get enough stuff secretly into commercial jets without anyone noticing and blowing the whistle? Bit like the moon landing. People say it didn't happen but 49 years later no one with even a passing involvement has come forward

[Graystone]

And that pretty much is the nail in the coffin as far as doing it in secret is concerned. How do you get enough stuff secretly into commercial jets without anyone noticing and blowing the whistle? Bit like the moon landing. People say it didn't happen but 49 years later no one with even a passing involvement has come forward

That's just cos they don't want Buzz Aldrin to punch them in the face though.

[Laava]

That's just cos they don't want Buzz Aldrin to punch them in the face though.

Lol, good point! He was being called a coward at that time as well by the journo, who interestingly, didn't have the balls to fight back...

[pritch]

*Hitler is interesting since the name Nazi means National Socialist - and he certainly implemented a number of policies that were Socialist in Nature

Nah. The alt-right shitheads quote the “socialist” in National Socialist as proof Hitler was a socialist. Total bollocks. The name included both of those words so as to appeal to the widest possible range of voters. Basically it was a con.

[oldrider]

Nah. Basically it was a con.

True and there is so much of that about - any different today?

[ellipsis]

...shouldn't the web law of entering AH and the Nasty Party automatically kill a thread...Godwin's?...anyway a TDL, a tit, or worse may have inadvertently cum on his hand again...oh woe...this thread was so original and enthralling...you fuckin wanker demonlard...