463 state houses vacant due to P contamination.

[Madness]

Housing NZ expects to save $30,000,000 a year on testing and spent $51,000,000 on “decontamination” in the 2016/17 financial year. That’s $81,000,000 and that’s only the state housing sector. I’m sure glad I don’t own a herd of dairy cows right about now.

National, the Government that supported business that wasn't even needed...

I wouldn’t be surprised if Key, Collins or Dunne’s son had an interest in a testing or “decontamination” contractor.

[Drew]

I wanna know if all the private home owners get to claim against the arbitrary standards that cost them thousands.

[Madness]

I wanna know if all the private home owners get to claim against the arbitrary standards that cost them thousands.

Maybe a free 24-pack of lightbulbs?

[R650R]

I wanna know if all the private home owners get to claim against the arbitrary standards that cost them thousands.

A class action lawsuit would be good. I took 90% of the clean up costs of a property I bought off the purchase price. Been tenanted so it needed new interior paint,wallpaper and carpet anyway so no big deal $ wise just the two weeks it took. Really its the seller who is out of pocket... I probably could have done the dulux overcoat with sealer and sugarsoap but better to have it done right to start with and certified clean for resale value.
And I would have bought it uncontaminated at its advertised price anyway if clean as it ticked all my boxes and supply was scarce...

It will be interesting to see what line insurance companies take, this has cost them dearly, most house policies you can claim up to 30k for meth damage so it has been costing them....

I think baseline testing should be compulsory on all sales and new rental agreements, via real estate or building report. Then a new STATE agency would come in and do full quantitive testing free of charge. The cost of this would be passed on to the previous occupiers along with an instant fine for association with meth use and all the relevant data passed on to police who would soon have a data map of drug users to lead them to dealers and then cooks.
Drug users that are state housing tenants (prob all as under new data share private landlords would know and not rent to you) would all gradually be moved into one suburb that would be gated with no children or elderly allowed to live there. Since drug use is harmless im sure the police, fire and ambulance would be happy to not visit this suburb at all for any reason or any other help agency....
Then just let Darwin take its course.....

[george formby]

I doubt any Kbers know how irked I was when this news came out. Multiple of my favourite nighties have been shredded by this bullshit meth debacle.

We sold a house a few years ago on condition by the mortgagee's bank that it was meth tested. The test was positive but very close to the threshold at the time. Much elbow grease and $3000 of testing later the deal was done.
Within 9 months the "safe" threshold was raised, we would have been all goods. That's three silk nighties I'd torn and one I'd accidentally bleached.

One of my original nighties was turned into confetti reading overseas stats on the danger of meth contamination, nobody gives a shit elsewhere, tobacco residues are potentially more harmful. Grrrrr..

Now this! Class action lawsuit? I'm in.
Do we target the banks or the gubbermint? Can we legally hunt down national MP's who set these levels and the industry precedent? Can we hunt bank executives, please, pretty please?

What a fucking joke, the scientific evidence is decades old. Why do we consistently have fuck knuckles jerking their knees at every point scoring opportunity? Devious, uninformed arse warts, professional felchers.

I'm irked again. Nay, miffed.

[Swoop]

I wanna know if all the private home owners get to claim against the arbitrary standards that cost them thousands.

Nope.
The leftist overlords are refusing to play ball here.


It obviously will get included in their "housing the needy" criteria of providing houses though. They ain't going to meet their targets through proper ways.

[R650R]

Now this! Class action lawsuit? I'm in.
Do we target the banks or the gubbermint? Can we legally hunt down national MP's who set these levels and the industry precedent? Can we hunt bank executives, please, pretty please?

What a fucking joke, the scientific evidence is decades old. Why do we consistently have fuck knuckles jerking their knees at every point scoring opportunity? Devious, uninformed arse warts, professional felchers.

I'm irked again. Nay, miffed.

What we need is a niky hagar or ian wisjart to uncover some crucial text or email talking about the revenue potential before the laws enacted....

Really tho the fat silent elephant in the room we are not hearing jack shit from is the Ministry of Health. THEY put out the guidelines STATING what the limits were and these are the same people who say fluoride is safe in our water....
The MOH should trump the govt science advisor, scientists are not doctors, they are glorified statisticians who play with recipes, kinds like chefs that are good at maths.
Dcotors and the MOH are the people at coalface seeing sick people, where is there comments/input into this????????????
Its prob been a big rort yes but at least a few loser druggies found it harder to get a rental for awhile... one less tool to evict loser tenants with...

By the way one interesting thing I found in my research was that the MOH actually published the ingrediants!!! So if your a halfwit theif not knowing what chemicals to steal, heres the god damn govt telling you what shits worth stealing, how dumb is that....

Also when did LABOUR decide they thought this was a rort, surely they didn't just think this up now, been going on seven years??? They magically save homeowners from this cost after being elected..... You don't need to be in govt to do research and come up with the stats....

[Paul in NZ]

Just another stunning example of how private enterprise can lead us to a utopian future with a best fit for purpose solution...

[Ocean1]

Just another stunning example of how private enterprise can lead us to a utopian future with a best fit for purpose solution...

Private enterprise didn’t invent the problem. That’d be a public service with zero links between cause vs effect in general and that of cost and return in particular.

[Voltaire]

Just another stunning example of how private enterprise can lead us to a utopian future with a best fit for purpose solution...

My pet hate at work is Testing and Tagging of office equipment, what a racket. I get it for building sites but offices.

At least its only a once every 5 years rip off.

Worksafe has put the fear of invisible friend up PCBU's.

I find it useful sometimes as once you give a piece of work a H and S twist no one is likely to decline funding.

On that, Fecking Hampton Downs charge a $25 H and S levy for each meeting. What do you get for it?????

[george formby]

My pet hate at work is Testing and Tagging of office equipment, what a racket. I get it for building sites but offices.

At least its only a once every 5 years rip off.

Worksafe has put the fear of invisible friend up PCBU's.

I find it useful sometimes as once you give a piece of work a H and S twist no one is likely to decline funding.

On that, Fecking Hampton Downs charge a $25 H and S levy for each meeting. What do you get for it?????

Tag and test, another rort.
We recently had all our kitchen equipment checked, now, our lethal kitchen aid mixers are safe.....

We also have to get a certified company to come in twice a year to clean our extraction canopies. 2 hours work = $1000.......

Speaking to a rep recently I was informed that the probes and laser thermometers we use to verify food temperatures will have to be checked by a certified calibrator. Minimum $80 a pop for a $30 probe... Seems boiling water and ice slurry is not accurate enough.

Hmmmm, I smell a business opportunity. Professional probe calibrator..

[Graystone]

Tag and test, another rort.
We recently had all our kitchen equipment checked, now, our lethal kitchen aid mixers are safe.....

We also have to get a certified company to come in twice a year to clean our extraction canopies. 2 hours work = $1000.......

Speaking to a rep recently I was informed that the probes and laser thermometers we use to verify food temperatures will have to be checked by a certified calibrator. Minimum $80 a pop for a $30 probe... Seems boiling water and ice slurry is not accurate enough.

Hmmmm, I smell a business opportunity. Professional probe calibrator..

You might find it is test and tag (ie, in the correct order). The lethality of appliance has nothing to do with it, they test flex cords and earthing to prevent electric shocks (which can be quite lethal regardless of how dangerous the appliance is).

[jellywrestler]

My pet hate at work is Testing and Tagging of office equipment, what a racket. I get it for building sites but offices.

At least its only a once every 5 years rip off.

why i's not a legal requirement, simply voluntary?
shit, when i started in telecom in 1979 we did it every three months, you'd remember that would ya?

[Voltaire]

why i's not a legal requirement, simply voluntary?
shit, when i started in telecom in 1979 we did it every three months, you'd remember that would ya?

It is....but I work for a US company and they are used to being sued so do all that.

Oh yes, I remember going around all the Post Offices and Telephone exchanges meggering soldering irons, toasters, heaters and so on.

Also used to rebuild those fecking useless B and D orange drills, soldering irons and toasters, and we even had a telephone reconditioning

department with about 30 staff. I used to get the coil rewind lady to do 6 volt ones for my VW.

I also did 6 months on PCS maintenance, you must have had at least one in Wangers?

[YellowDog]

I haven't read enough about the reasoning, to believe it, as of yet. I initially read it as a simple solution to an expensive problem.

Creating bogus global industries, for all to fund, is very much the newest way of the world. I guess it just got too expensive.

If they used the very same tactic with global warming...…………………..