The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Laava]

No you muppet, they used the USA date format.
Does that mean this document is a fake??
Guess would need to know who runs this hospital.

Now you're starting to catch on! Yes of course that means it is fake!

[Katman]

Now you're starting to catch on! Yes of course that means it is fake!

Dude, I've never been particularly bothered about the birth certificate business (yesterday's news, and all that), but unless you can show other birth certificates from the same hospital, around the same time, that show the date recorded differently, then your date theory counts for shit.

[Laava]

Dude, I've never been particularly bothered about the birth certificate business (yesterday's news, and all that), but unless you can show other birth certificates from the same hospital, around the same time, that show the date recorded differently, then your date theory counts for shit.

Don't be fuckin lazy, do your own research!

[Laava]

(yesterday's news, and all that).

And yet, this would be the basis of all your conspiracy threads?

[Katman]

Don't be fuckin lazy, do your own research!

Like I said - not really interested.

I'm just pointing things out that you don't seem to have figured out for yourself yet.

[oldrider]

Something closer to the real deal perhaps?

[Katman]

And yet, this would be the basis of all your conspiracy threads?

You should google photoshop.

You can make a version of one - if you can't be bothered looking for a real one.

[TheDemonLord]

You ignore it as it doesnt suit your agenda, same way as Katman does with all sorts of his conspiracies.
I will give you a hint all official American goverment emails addresses are state .govt no one has any different one, its the same here in NZ.
All goverment departments have a email address .govt.nz all local body employees here are govt.nz
Lets be very clear, she never once had a state.gov email address, anyone sending her an email would instantly see this.
I even posted what her email address was.
So what top level international goverment or state department did you work for again?
100,00's of state department emails from thousands of people and no one noticed, you are just being stupid.
Your opinion about the mater counts for little, you dont seem to fathom, that normal people take the opinion of the FBI over yours when it comes to both legal maters and criminal wrong doing.
You don't even take on board that she was 3 times cleared on criminal charges.

No, I've ignored it because I've got the experience to back up what I'm saying. A cloud based email account has less risk than a private server. There's no Agenda there, that's just the fact of IT.

I've dealt with multiple compromised Virtual Machines and Private Servers in my time, I've dealt with individual compromised Mail accounts due to weak passwords - I've never dealt with a full-scale intrusion into a Mail Platform.

And I'm aware of how TLDs work - you don't seem to be aware of how Active Directory or Exchange works.

As for international Government - I've managed Enterprise grade Mail platforms for 10+ years, Including one or 2 household names in NZ.

You don't appreciate how much mail volume even a relatively small Mail setup will generate - there might be 100,000 emails - but they will be a fraction of a percentage. And that is why no one would have noticed.

Hell, I can even give you instances where I have had to investigate individuals mail activity - for a single user, it's normally several hours of trawling through logs - and that's presuming it's a relatively simple setup. Complex setup with multiple internal servers, relays, filters, Firewalls etc. take ever longer.

Your notion that someone would be able to pick that up is Laughable - mostly because this is an area where I happen to have quite a bit of experience, and I'm willing to bet you have none.

Then you have the scenario - assume you are a Mail Administrator and you do pick up that Hilary Clinton is doing something suspicious - without going into conspiracy land of assasination and 'suspicious deaths' - are you really going to rock the boat for arguably one of the most powerful women in America? The phrase "That's above my Pay grade" is applicable here.

Finally the FBI - that would be the same FBI that was "investigating" Conservative interest groups? The Same FBI who had Peter Strozk and Lisa Page vowing to actively stop Trump? The same FBI that failed to act on the Anthony Weiner Laptop?

The problem here - is that once your law enforcement starts picking sides, any facade of objectivity is lost.

As for your last point - I'll simply repeat my foundational statement - In every organization that I've worked in, What Hillary did would be grounds for instant dismissal. Is it Against US Law? I personally suspect it is, but no one has the balls to nail her to the wall, however even if it IS legal, at the very least should should have been summarily booted out of Politics for it and declared Persona non Grata.

[husaberg]

No, I've ignored it because I've got the experience to back up what I'm saying. A cloud based email account has less risk than a private server. There's no Agenda there, that's just the fact of IT.

I've dealt with multiple compromised Virtual Machines and Private Servers in my time, I've dealt with individual compromised Mail accounts due to weak passwords - I've never dealt with a full-scale intrusion into a Mail Platform.

And I'm aware of how TLDs work - you don't seem to be aware of how Active Directory or Exchange works.

As for international Government - I've managed Enterprise grade Mail platforms for 10+ years, Including one or 2 household names in NZ.

You don't appreciate how much mail volume even a relatively small Mail setup will generate - there might be 100,000 emails - but they will be a fraction of a percentage. And that is why no one would have noticed.

Hell, I can even give you instances where I have had to investigate individuals mail activity - for a single user, it's normally several hours of trawling through logs - and that's presuming it's a relatively simple setup. Complex setup with multiple internal servers, relays, filters, Firewalls etc. take ever longer.

Your notion that someone would be able to pick that up is Laughable - mostly because this is an area where I happen to have quite a bit of experience, and I'm willing to bet you have none.

Then you have the scenario - assume you are a Mail Administrator and you do pick up that Hilary Clinton is doing something suspicious - without going into conspiracy land of assasination and 'suspicious deaths' - are you really going to rock the boat for arguably one of the most powerful women in America? The phrase "That's above my Pay grade" is applicable here.

Finally the FBI - that would be the same FBI that was "investigating" Conservative interest groups? The Same FBI who had Peter Strozk and Lisa Page vowing to actively stop Trump? The same FBI that failed to act on the Anthony Weiner Laptop?

The problem here - is that once your law enforcement starts picking sides, any facade of objectivity is lost.

As for your last point - I'll simply repeat my foundational statement - In every organization that I've worked in, What Hillary did would be grounds for instant dismissal. Is it Against US Law? I personally suspect it is, but no one has the balls to nail her to the wall, however even if it IS legal, at the very least should should have been summarily booted out of Politics for it and declared Persona non Grata.

As i have attempted to point out to you what 5 times now its irelevent what server was used if it was not the State departments one that is sending the state departments information.
What you are a bit blind to is that after the whole Clinton debacle the state department realised they needed to put some rules in place one of those rules is no one is allowed to be sending state department emails on anything other that the state department server.
Really my job is to fix (for a SOE) and close loopholes find information and interpret data and make sure people are held accountable for their time and actions.
In my last My SOE job i managed to find a rather large attempt to pervert justice and fixed it.
The job before that i managed to find a rather simple hole in the email system where i was able to send emails from anyone's account including the ceo.
That one was rather fun. Plus also useful.
As for not knowing how a directory exchanges works i will point it out again Hillary never ever had a .state email address and who is it who loads the information for the directory exchange in the first place?
The FBI is impartial even when trump fires people and threatens them they still do their job.
Case in point.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/c...18-4?r=US&IR=T

No one in the state department is above the law or rules even if they are the secretary of state or the president.
No statement the Secretary of state makes or directive that is issued by her is not vetted.
You have to wonder given your point of view regarding security of information how does any spy or anyone guilty of industrial espionage ever gets caught.
I dont care for your legal opinion as i trust the state department and the FBI is a better versed than you are.

[Katman]

....pervert justice.....

Is that some sort of sick porn?

[Katman]

The job before that i managed to find a rather simple hole in the email system.

Lucky it was simple.

I bet your mother was proud though.

[pritch]

It has been reported that YouTube have banned Alex Jones from live streaming and that all Infowars videos have been removed from the site. Later today I’ll check, and if true I will definitely drink to that.

[yokel]

It has been reported that YouTube have banned Alex Jones from live streaming and that all Infowars videos have been removed from the site. Later today I’ll check, and if true I will definitely drink to that.

Why, because you're stupid fucking fascist?
The shits going to hit the fan.

[TheDemonLord]

As i have attempted to point out to you what 5 times now its irelevent what server was used if it was not the State departments one that is sending the state departments information.

And I shall disprove that statement in a minute...

The job before that i managed to find a rather simple hole in the email system where i was able to send emails from anyone's account including the ceo.

Was that a cloud based email platform? Such as Outlook.com, Office365 or Gmail? Or was it a poorly setup local Exchange server which didn't have the correct Permissions for users?

And therein lies the difference - Cloud platforms are by default Secure, now you can grant impersonate permissions within Office365 for example, but that requires a conscious action on the part of the user/administrator.

Whereas a private server has all sorts of pitfalls that a lazy/inept configuration can cause.

As for not knowing how a directory exchanges works i will point it out again Hillary never ever had a .state email address and who is it who loads the information for the directory exchange in the first place?

Active Directory, Microsoft Exchange - two separate technologies. For example - did you know what by default, a domain user will automatically get an email address for their domain login (which is most likely .state.govt) - now, with Exchange policy, you can make that address so that it's not routeable externally.

The FBI is impartial even when trump fires people and threatens them they still do their job.
Case in point.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/c...18-4?r=US&IR=T

I'm referring to the IG Report - and it shows that senior staff within the FBI had a definitive bias and that they had a conflict of interest between their personal political beliefs and the investigation they were carrying out.

You have to wonder given your point of view regarding security of information how does any spy or anyone guilty of industrial espionage ever gets caught.
I dont care for your legal opinion as i trust the state department and the FBI is a better versed than you are.

A quick review of Spycraft shows the 2 most common causes of Spies getting caught:

1: The Spy makes a mistake (complacency, over-confidence etc.)
2: A Double agent outs them.

Email logs are almost always something that gets looked at after the fact - namely when an investigation has been raised or suspicion has been aired.

[yokel]

As i have attempted to point out to you what 5 times now its irelevent what server was used if it was not the State departments one that is sending the state departments information.
What you are a bit blind to is that after the whole Clinton debacle the state department realised they needed to put some rules in place one of those rules is no one is allowed to be sending state department emails on anything other that the state department server.
Really my job is to fix (for a SOE) and close loopholes find information and interpret data and make sure people are held accountable for their time and actions.
In my last My SOE job i managed to find a rather large attempt to pervert justice and fixed it.
The job before that i managed to find a rather simple hole in the email system where i was able to send emails from anyone's account including the ceo.
That one was rather fun. Plus also useful.
As for not knowing how a directory exchanges works i will point it out again Hillary never ever had a .state email address and who is it who loads the information for the directory exchange in the first place?
The FBI is impartial even when trump fires people and threatens them they still do their job.
Case in point.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/c...18-4?r=US&IR=T

No one in the state department is above the law or rules even if they are the secretary of state or the president.
No statement the Secretary of state makes or directive that is issued by her is not vetted.
You have to wonder given your point of view regarding security of information how does any spy or anyone guilty of industrial espionage ever gets caught.
I dont care for your legal opinion as i trust the state department and the FBI is a better versed than you are.

Obviously Hillary is not the only one engaged in this criminal activity.

Down they go......