Tommy Robinson

[TheDemonLord]

Into the recreational chemicals were we?

This from the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...t-brexit-march

Oh My God!

a Whole 600 Twitter accounts MIGHT be link to Russia?!!?! And they Might be supporting Tommy?!?!

Stop. The. Fucking. Press.

And Shit! A Thinktank spent nearly $60,000 on Legal fees for someone they believe deserves help!?!?! How Dare they!!!

I mean Fuck - it's almost like he's provided $11 Billion to various organizations, some of which seeking to change the political process of another country, supporting, possibly funding a domestic terrorist organization, Spreading Antisemitic material, funding for an organization that has promoted killing of Police, and funding an attempt to illegally enter the US.

If I take every single one of those claims by the guardian at face value, then they represent a single nugget of digested Corn, compared to the steaming pile of Horseshit that those they agree have done.

[husaberg]

Oh My God!

a Whole 600 Twitter accounts MIGHT be link to Russia?!!?! And they Might be supporting Tommy?!?!

Stop. The. Fucking. Press.

And Shit! A Thinktank spent nearly $60,000 on Legal fees for someone they believe deserves help!?!?! How Dare they!!!

I mean Fuck - it's almost like he's provided $11 Billion to various organizations, some of which seeking to change the political process of another country, supporting, possibly funding a domestic terrorist organization, Spreading Antisemitic material, funding for an organization that has promoted killing of Police, and funding an attempt to illegally enter the US.

If I take every single one of those claims by the guardian at face value, then they represent a single nugget of digested Corn, compared to the steaming pile of Horseshit that those they agree have done.

Lets be frank if AKA is so anti illegal immigration why is it he flew to America illegally on a false passport.
If he is such a fine outstanding citizen why does he choose to harass people solely on their race.
After all if its their criminal activity he objects to why is it not hypocritical given his long lists of convictions ranging from fraud to assault.
Its pretty clear given his repeated contempt of court charges that he doesn't care about the law when it applies to him.
I am sure there will be other suckers next time that believe his rubbish.

[TheDemonLord]

Lets be frank if AKA is so anti illegal immigration why is it he flew to America illegally on a false passport.

Did he Migrate to America?

No?

Bit of a difference then Aye.

If he is such a fine outstanding citizen why is he he choces to harass people solely on their race.

Citation needed.

After all if its their criminal activity he objects to why is it not hypocritical given his long lists of convictions ranging from fraud to assault.

Can you point to his convictions for multiple, systematic rapes and/or Terrorism to make that comparison?

Its pretty clear given his repeated contempt of court charges that he doesn't care about the law when it applies to him.

More false equivalence.

I am sure there will be other suckers next time that believe his rubbish.

If the likes of Tommy are so offensive to you - there's a simple solution to the problem: Have the open and honest conversations in the public domain about some of the unsavory aspects of Islam.

[husaberg]

Did he Migrate to America?

No?

Bit of a difference then Aye..

No he entered the country illegally with a false passport did you not notice that?

Citation needed..

No you need to provide some proof he harasses or harangues other nationalities or religions other than Muslims or people from the Indian subcontinent

Speaking to the broadcaster following a court’s decision to adjourn the retrial of Robinson – real name: Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon – on contempt of court charges, Robinson was questioned on why he doesn’t campaign against white pedophiles. He said: “To be honest with you, I don’t care if it incites fear [against Muslims]

Citation needed..
Can you point to his convictions for multiple, systematic rapes and/or Terrorism to make that comparison?

Can you point to where i mentioned rapists or anyone,you pulled that comparison out of thin air, But i have never seen him speak up about any crime unless it was allegedly perpetrated by someone from the indian subcontinent.
AKA is a multiple times convicted criminal yet he doesn't harass people found guilty of offences he targets those on trial.
He is a criminal a convicted one yet he seeks to attack people before they are found guilty in one case he named and identified a completely wrong person.
Others he follows around Journalist and films outside their private houses when they say stuff he doesn't like he also incites violence.

More false equivalence.

False eq, is he a multi time convicted criminal who is walking the streets, would this be the case if he was an immigrant, He would be saying its a conspiracy and a cover up.

If the likes of Tommy are so offensive to you - there's a simple solution to the problem: Have the open and honest conversations in the public domain about some of the unsavory aspects of Islam.

There you go again is Tommy about Crime or about being anti islam?

Last time we had a conversation about islam you got all upset when similar verses were found in the Bible as whatbyou implied was in the Koran.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131105957
But why is it catholic priests abusing Kids is not a White problem nor is Scout master sexually assulting kids not a white person problem either.

[Grumph]

What fascinated me reading abouut T Robinson was the information that the Trump administration has an "Ambassador for Religious Freedom"
While in this context that's an oxymoron, it was funny as fuck to see that this "Ambassador" had bailed up the Brit Ambassador to the US and evinced concern for T Robinson's safety in jail....

Not only that but the "Ambassador" threatened to have Trump denounce the Brit Justice system if T R wasn't handled properly....

When you've stopped laughing at this, reflect that most of the US financial backers of T R also back Trump....Religious freedom, my arse.

[husaberg]

What fascinated me reading abouut T Robinson was the information that the Trump administration has an "Ambassador for Religious Freedom"
While in this context that's an oxymoron, it was funny as fuck to see that this "Ambassador" had bailed up the Brit Ambassador to the US and evinced concern for T Robinson's safety in jail....

Not only that but the "Ambassador" threatened to have Trump denounce the Brit Justice system if T R wasn't handled properly....

When you've stopped laughing at this, reflect that most of the US financial backers of T R also back Trump....Religious freedom, my arse.

I see Trump has had another big mass sacking round in the whitehouse.
Even more funny is the New US ambassador to the UN is a EX fox News Reporter.

[pritch]

Did he Migrate to America?

No?

Bit of a difference then Aye.



Citation needed.



Can you point to his convictions for multiple, systematic rapes and/or Terrorism to make that comparison?



More false equivalence.



If the likes of Tommy are so offensive to you - there's a simple solution to the problem: Have the open and honest conversations in the public domain about some of the unsavory aspects of Islam.

You have succeeded in progressing from sealion to troll.

Robinson has a long history of violence and fraud including roughing up women. Yeah, he's a real man. A raft of his mates and colleagues have been charged with a variety of sexual offences but I guess they are OK 'cause they are white. It does appear though that sex offences really don't bother him too much - unless committed by somebody who isn't white.

It's questionable whether he is sincere in any of his political positions, his aim appears simply to be self aggrandisement. His record is that of a nasty character, as are his followers, some of whom appear to be exceedingly dim.

Don't ask for citations, do your own bloody reading.

[pritch]

When you've stopped laughing at this, reflect that most of the US financial backers of T R also back Trump....Religious freedom, my arse.

The weekend is just ending in the States but there is a story I have just seen a couple of references to. One of the major Christian leaders in the US apparently had a three way thing with his wife and a pool boy. This became known to team Trump and the "Christian" was blackmailed in to supporting Trump.

Events may become clearer overnight our time?

[Katman]

Don't ask for citations, do your own bloody reading.

What would you recommend?

Mills & Boon?

[Grumph]

What would you recommend?

Mills & Boon?

Probably more accurate than infowars...

[Voltaire]

Probably more accurate than infowars...

here's one from one of ToDoLists Stalinist favs.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...tommy-robinson

Facing 1,000 beer-swigging fascists howling their support for their idol, about 100 anti-racists held placards calling for a stand against division and delivered chants of “Tommy Robinson go to hell, take your nazi friends as well.”

Do they have beer halls in London?

[TheDemonLord]

No he entered the country illegally with a false passport did you not notice that?

Still not Migrating though - since he had no intention to:

a) Work
b) Live there

No you need to provide some proof he harasses or harangues other nationalities or religions other than Muslims or people from the Indian subcontinent

You made the claim. Now, back it up with Evidence.

Can you point to where i mentioned rapists or anyone,you pulled that comparison out of thin air, But i have never seen him speak up about any crime unless it was allegedly perpetrated by someone from the indian subcontinent.
AKA is a multiple times convicted criminal yet he doesn't harass people found guilty of offences he targets those on trial.
He is a criminal a convicted one yet he seeks to attack people before they are found guilty in one case he named and identified a completely wrong person.
Others he follows around Journalist and films outside their private houses when they say stuff he doesn't like he also incites violence.

You're trying to make the point that "Tommy is just as bad as those he critiques" - and therefore a Hypocrite. I'm pointing out that low-level Criminal Behavior is not the same as systematic serious offending (like Rape and Terrorism) and therefore whilst Tommy is not Lilly White (and I've never made the claim he is) he's nowhere near as bad as those he critiques.

False eq, is he a multi time convicted criminal who is walking the streets, would this be the case if he was an immigrant, He would be saying its a conspiracy and a cover up.

You're trying to make him out like he's Pablo Escobar. He's not. Stop this smear attempt.

There you go again is Tommy about Crime or about being anti islam?

Here's a thought - maybe some of the 3rd world, fundamental Islamic views/behaviors are what we would consider 'Criminal'.

Honor Killings would be a start.
Stoning Women to death for Adultery would be another.

So you tell me - is opposition to those things about Crime or about Anti-Islam? Or can both be true at the same time?

Last time we had a conversation about islam you got all upset when similar verses were found in the Bible as whatbyou implied was in the Koran.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131105957
But why is it catholic priests abusing Kids is not a White problem nor is Scout master sexually assulting kids not a white person problem either.

Yes, I ignored you when you deliberately took things out of context, ignoring the chronological manner of the composition of the Bible.

Catholic priests abusing Kids is a problem. The Catholic church routinely gets flak for it's handling (and continued handling) of those instances.
Same with the Scouts.

But - here's where you have to prove your attempt at an equivalence.

I can point so Bachi Bazi, I can point to a unique type of Sexual Slavery that only exists in fundamental Islamic Countries, I can point to FGM, Honor Killings, Sharia Law - all of which are unique to 3rd world Islamic groups - which specifically allow or promote certain types of behaviour.

If you would please point to similar concepts in either the Catholic Church or the Boy Scouts that is even remotely comparable, I'll accept your equivalency.

[TheDemonLord]

here's one from one of ToDoLists Stalinist favs.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...tommy-robinson



Do they have beer halls in London?

"For Peace and Socialism"

That is the very definition of a bad joke, that is so bad, it becomes funny again.

How's all that peace working out for Venezuala?


- Also - I feel flattered that you are now compelled to create nom de plume for me.

[TheDemonLord]

His record is that of a nasty character, as are his followers, some of whom appear to be exceedingly dim.

Don't ask for citations, do your own bloody reading.

Calling other people Dim, then either not understanding (ignorance) or deliberately ignoring (Malice) the necessity of the Burden of Proof.

Sounds about right...

You can think of him as a Nasty person, it's your right, Let me ask you this - if there is absolutely nothing wrong with 3rd world, Fundamentalist versions of Islam - then you'd have no problem moving yourself and your family to a country where that was the rule of law? Yes?









Unless... I'm picking, there is no way in hell you'd move you and your family there. If so, that raises a question - why is that? You may not like Tommy for his plain, blunt and sometimes poorly chosen manner - but that alone does not alter that there is a genuine question there. It's not motivated by Race or Hatred.

It's a genuine question that certain groups of people (who never have to interact with the working class, 3rd world Muslim immigrants who commit these crimes, only ever dealing with polite, moderate 'Westernised' Muslims) deliberately refused to discuss. We have to be fair here, in avoiding the discussion, they were keeping to a parody of one of the great principles of English liberalism - the Freedom of Religion.

In the void that was left, came Tommy and yes, also came Anger and Resentment.

I'll simply repeat myself - if you Hate Tommy as much as you profess, there's a simple solution to the problem: Have the damn discussion properly. If we see Political leaders stop openly declaring Islam to be a religion of Peace right after another Islamic terrorist attack, and actually grapple with the fundamentalist problem - you'll take all the air out of Tommy's sails and he will slide back into obscurity.

If, however, you want him around for a very long time - keep up the good work.

[Voltaire]

- Also - I feel flattered that you are now compelled to create nom de plume for me.

First choice was To Die laughing

Try and keep it short, as us dumb commies can only read about 3 lines.