The firearm thread

[husaberg]

Emotional waffle especially that last line.

Go on then scummy so do we get to pick and choose now which laws we follow and not be treated as a criminal.......

[scumdog]

Go on then scummy so do we get to pick and choose now which laws we follow and not be treated as a criminal.......

I dunno but you'reclaiming something that has yet to happen.

Come back after December.

[husaberg]

I dunno but you'reclaiming something that has yet to happen.

Come back after December.

The guns became prohibited the day the act was passed
I was pretty clear when i said those that don't hand theirs in. not those that havent

[scumdog]

The guns became prohibited the day the act was passed
I was pretty clear when i said those that don't hand theirs in. not those that havent

The way it read was along the lines of those who won't hand them in are already criminals...if not? my bad.

[husaberg]

The way it read was along the lines of those who won't hand them in are already criminals...if not? my bad.

Not my intention, The ones that dont hand in the firearms are the same as all the other criminals they claimed they were were actually different from.
From memory its something like 3 years n jail,
I cant remember what the guy that supplied the gun Haley Williams was killed with got (three years 4 months)

[pritch]

Interestingly I received an email today from the Police about the arrangements for handing in firearms. Not that I own anything affected by the changes. Nor do I recall ever giving them my email address which possibly raises an interesting question regarding the Privacy Act.

[Laava]

Utter Bullshit!

My brothers 15 shot pump action 22 is now illegal as is my 8 shot pump action 12 guage shotty.

Jeez, calm the farm there big fella!
So, you can legally modify the shotgun to only take 5 rounds. If you want to keep it, same as the .22 tube mags.
Re the pump action 22, I have 2 of these as well, my old one(1911) is a ten shot, but you can fit 12 in the tube(not recommended) and you can have one already cranked in. But the gun is descibed as a ten shot. The other one is similar. Is that also the case with your brothers?

[scumdog]

Jeez, calm the farm there big fella!
So, you can legally modify the shotgun to only take 5 rounds. If you want to keep it, same as the .22 tube mags.
Re the pump action 22, I have 2 of these as well, my old one(1911) is a ten shot, but you can fit 12 in the tube(not recommended) and you can have one already cranked in. But the gun is descibed as a ten shot. The other one is similar. Is that also the case with your brothers?

True and I know that but I resent having to alter my gun, even more so my brother with his 22 - have you ever seen how long it takes to reload those little suckers?

And the law wants to lumber them in the samecatagory of 'dangerousness' as an AR10....

[Laava]

True and I know that but I resent having to alter my gun, even more so my brother with his 22 - have you ever seen how long it takes to reload those little suckers?

And the law wants to lumber them in the samecatagory of 'dangerousness' as an AR10....

Funny, I thought you of all people would be supportive of the govt's removal of weapons as described. I had an SKS, russian one, a few years ago and although I did take it goat shooting, it was not the best weapon for that and pretty much nothing else that I needed.
And yes, very familiar with the old late night fumble of trying to load a tube mag of .22's in the dark! I can do std 7shot mags piece of piss while I am walking along spotlighting.

[scumdog]

Funny, I thought you of all people would be supportive of the govt's removal of weapons as described. I had an SKS, russian one, a few years ago and although I did take it goat shooting, it was not the best weapon for that and pretty much nothing else that I needed.
And yes, very familiar with the old late night fumble of trying to load a tube mag of .22's in the dark! I can do std 7shot mags piece of piss while I am walking along spotlighting.

Me support this idiot law?

Nah, only if I thought it would really stop the shootings, look how many have happened in Auckland since the March massacre.

Aramoana massacre resulted in a hurried flawed change to the law - and now this hurried (again) change in the law is hitting the wrong target.

Make all firearms capable of being catagory E classification into just that, catagory E (like it should have been from the start)

[Swoop]

Totally wrong on two counts.
a, it is not a "gun grab", they are only banning MSSA,s. I do wish you would pay attention.

Not true.
Lever-action firearms are being confiscated.
Pump-action rifles and also shotguns are being confiscated...

Make all firearms capable of being catagory E classification into just that, catagory E (like it should have been from the start)

It could be noted that firearms on a "register" (B, C, E) have not been used by their owner, in a crime. Just put conditions on the E cat endorsement so it becomes similar to B-cat's (shoots per year, club membership, etc).

[Oakie]

Interestingly I received an email today from the Police about the arrangements for handing in firearms. Not that I own anything affected by the changes. Nor do I recall ever giving them my email address which possibly raises an interesting question regarding the Privacy Act.

Email address is on the Firearms Licence application form and the renewal form. If you have a firearms licence, they'll have your address.

[Laava]

Email address is on the Firearms Licence application form and the renewal form. If you have a firearms licence, they'll have your address.

Just because it is on the form does not make it compulsory. I was asked for mine but refused to give it.

[pritch]

Not true.
Lever-action firearms are being confiscated.
Pump-action rifles and also shotguns are being confiscated

Lever action firearms? I didn?t see that but I guess if the mag holds more than ten rounds?

I do note that the summary of the new laws we received at the club lists semi auto 22s with mags holding more than five rounds as being banned. We?re assuming a brain fart at head office.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Most lever actions hold more than 10 rounds
Especially if they?re chambered in a pistol cartridge, EG 357 mag, 44/40, 45LC, etc
Short cartridge means more fit in the mag.
I’d say 99% of 22 lever actions hold more than 10 rounds as well.