The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[austingtir]

The illegal immigrants to the US contribute hugely to the economy. Most work and pay taxes for which they get nothing in return. They can't easily access medical care, they can't vote, and they can never become a citizen. Their kids can though because if they are born in the US they are citizens.

Some like Trump would like to change that, but all but one of his five kids should loose their citizenship under his rules. Only his first child Tiffany had a mother who was born a US citizen. All the others had a mother was was an illegal immigrant (Ivana) or a suspected illegal immigrant (Melania) at the time.

Hypocrisy rulez.

But thats not true they just use fake social security numbers maybe even upto 39 million of them infact!!.... and alot of them even vote to. All of which is illegal.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...curity-numbers


You are totally missing Trumps point which is no surprise given your ramblings on here. The problem is also the likes of ms13 gang members using kids (that arent there own) to fake their way through that border and then causing havoc in the US raping, drugs and forming criminal gangs.

You try to make it out like its all a fairytale what Trump is saying but its just not. Which is why its laughable that the dems are trying to use this as political ammo. The majority of americans can see through this because they live through this stuff everyday. They can see with their own eyes all the criminals among the illegal aliens especially those in the lower border states.


All they are going to do is get Trump Re-elected and this time in a landslide and its going to be hilarious.

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But thats not true they just use fake social security numbers maybe even upto 39 million of them infact!!.... and alot of them even vote to. All of which is illegal.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...curity-numbers


You are totally missing Trumps point which is no surprise given your ramblings on here. The problem is also the likes of ms13 gang members using kids (that arent there own) to fake their way through that border and then causing havoc in the US raping, drugs and forming criminal gangs.

You try to make it out like its all a fairytale what Trump is saying but its just not. Which is why its laughable that the dems are trying to use this as political ammo. The majority of americans can see through this because they live through this stuff everyday. They can see with their own eyes all the criminals among the illegal aliens especially those in the lower border states.


All they are going to do is get Trump Re-elected and this time in a landslide and its going to be hilarious.

MS13 is originally a US gang. It doesn't have an international organisation Anyone can say they are MS13 - as long as there isn't already a gang there. NYPD refer to MS13 members there as the murdering munchkins. They are young high school kids. Murderous high school kids.

The majority of Americans know the score, more of them voted for Clinton than for the idiot in chief.
Only the bottom thirty odd percent support him. Them and the billionaires - but the billionaires have got their tax cut now.

Trump talks crap continually, anybody who believes him has a loose grip on reality. At the G20 Summit there were no US press present at his meeting with Putin, only Russian press. That's the second time he's done that. Yet some people still don't grasp the idea that Putin has Trump over a barrel.

[sugilite:Me]

All they are going to do is get Trump Re-elected and this time in a landslide and its going to be hilarious.

Trump has no problem using illegal immigrants within his golf course and other businesses. He just blurts out shit that his demonstrably shrinking base wants to hear. The thing that you do not get about Trump, is that he truly does not give a shit about you or the issues you small minded supporters care about. He just strokes your little egos and you all cum in your pants. He just wants to stay in power for powers sake.

He is woefully unqualified for the job and demonstrates that every day. Nearly every republican in the senate and house could easily outperform him in every aspect of the job.

Because you are in little old BOP, you have absolutely no real idea just how deeply unpopular he really is here. And when he does lose, and he is going to lose by a large margin. Then people like yourself with such little capacity to understand anything out your shuttered existence - will cry into your pillows and wail and howl that it was voter fraud. The fact is, now people have had a few years to see this lying, criminal narcissistic bullying turd causing daily chaos. They are beyond sick of him. Oh, and once he is out of office, he will be joining his buddy Manafort in Rikers - because he has given so much up about himself (admitting his past 1 billion losses was in effect tax fraud - which he will still be doing, so no statue of limitations is going to save his arse sport) and the smart prosecutors are keeping their powder dry. He is going to get what is coming to him, and it is not another presidential term, but rather a jail term.

So stock up on the tissues, because even though you talk like a tough guy, people now know you are at your core a gutless, racist homophobic wimp who is only a "hero" when safely hiding behind a screen.

[austingtir]

MS13 is originally a US gang. It doesn't have an international organisation Anyone can say they are MS13 - as long as there isn't already a gang there. NYPD refer to MS13 members there as the murdering munchkins. They are young high school kids. Muderous high school kids.

The majority of Americans know the score, more of them voted for Clinton than for the idiot in chief.
Only the bottom thirty odd percent support him. Them and the billionaires - but the billionaires have got their tax cut now.

Trump talks crap continually, anybody who believes him has a loose grip on reality. At the G20 Summit there were no US press present at his meeting with Putin, only Russian press. That's the second time he's done that. Yet some people still don't grasp the idea that Putin has Trump over a barrel.

Absolute horseshit the only thing you stated thats vaguely true is that ms13 has its origins in Los Angeles. Its now referred to as a Transnational organization.

You shouldnt talk about stuff you know nothing about like you do.

https://www.insightcrime.org/el-salv...ms-13-profile/


The reason he doesnt allow US media there is obvious the last time they were practically trying to start a war between Russian and the USA. The MSM are fake news its that simple.

[austingtir]

Trump has no problem using illegal immigrants within his golf course and other businesses. He just blurts out shit that his demonstrably shrinking base wants to hear. The thing that you do not get about Trump, is that he truly does not give a shit about you or the issues you small minded supporters care about. He just strokes your little egos and you all cum in your pants. He just wants to stay in power for powers sake.

He is woefully unqualified for the job and demonstrates that every day. Nearly every republican in the senate and house could easily outperform him in every aspect of the job.

Because you are in little old BOP, you have absolutely no real idea just how deeply unpopular he really is here. And when he does lose, and he is going to lose by a large margin. Then people like yourself with such little capacity to understand anything out your shuttered existence - will cry into your pillows and wail and howl that it was voter fraud. The fact is, now people have had a few years to see this lying, criminal narcissistic bullying turd causing daily chaos. They are beyond sick of him. Oh, and once he is out of office, he will be joining his buddy Manafort in Rikers - because he has given so much up about himself (admitting his past 1 billion losses was in effect tax fraud - which he will still be doing, so no statue of limitations is going to save his arse sport) and the smart prosecutors are keeping their powder dry. He is going to get what is coming to him, and it is not another presidential term, but rather a jail term.

So stock up on the tissues, because even though you talk like a tough guy, people now know you are at your core a gutless, racist homophobic wimp who is only a "hero" when safely hiding behind a screen.

^^This is what TDS looks like^^

The levels of cope in your post are absurd bro. Im not even going to bother, your post speaks volumes about how deranged you are I dont need to add anything.

Its like im living in your head rent free.

[pritch]

^^This is what TDS looks like^^

The levels of cope in your post are absurd bro. Im not even going to bother, your post speaks volumes about how deranged you are I dont need to add anything.

Its like im living in your head rent free.

LOL. OK I give up. ^^This is truly what TDS looks like.^^

Up until now you've been funny, now you're just boring.

I was going to say something about communists but nah, it would be lost on you. Like pretty much everything else.

[sugilite:Me]

^^This is what TDS looks like^^

The levels of cope in your post are absurd bro. Im not even going to bother, your post speaks volumes about how deranged you are I dont need to add anything.

Its like im living in your head rent free.

The reason you say nothing - is you have nothing.
The interesting thing about the Trump Derangement Syndrome narrative is it is designed as a two prong tool by Trump advisors/baby nannies.
1. Trump is so thin skinned, it leaves him bewildered to think others do not think as highly of him as he does himself - so call it a syndrome and the poor thin skinned petal can partially deal with the rejection.
2. It is directly aimed at the non critical thinkers like you - anything even remotely anti Trump can now be written off as TDS by the base.

The other curious thing is you call anyone and everyone that disagrees with you a commie or marxist, and yet your baby daddy thinks Putin is just the bestest guy ever and takes his word over all others. Putin is a truly scary guy. He is smart as a whip with zero empathy for human kind. His intellect towers over Trumps, as does the Chinese President Xi's. You go on about Trump being a "Alpha Male" But what he is really most akin to is a Mall Cop strutting around the mall puffing out his chest thinking he is the biggest most important man in the mall - where as the likes of Putin and Xi own the mall and by definition own mall cops arse.

When Putin and Xi recently met do you honestly think for one second that they discussed how Trump is an awesome alpha male and must be respected? Or do you think they laughed at him behind his back and talked about how this fool is eroding the American led coalitions faster than they ever could of ever hoped for? They very likely started talking seriously among themselves how they were going to divide up the left overs after this fool has finished the job he was put in place to do.

Ultimately this ends two ways for Trump - he gets taken out by the shadowy figures that really control things once he has served his purpose, or he lives long enough to get voted out and jailed. Poor Trumpkin is going to get shafted one way or the other. There is zero chance of a happily ever after for him.

[Berries]

I saw what some people call Trumps lasting legacy on TV last night. This does move him up to the same table as those real global leaders if you ask me. Although it could of course be a marxist/communist plot.

[austingtir]

I actually saw this posted on the trademe messageboard... The comments on there show people are slowly waking up. If this was posted on there three years ago all you would of got is this is a massive conspiracy theory out of all the usual lemmings on there. Lets see how the lemmings on here react:

The Destruction of Normality - One man's viewpoint
by Guest Post on June 29, 2019 at 12:30pm
By Patriot Realm
I have been scanning the news from across the Western world and it is just more of the same. Everything seems to be about someone trying to shut down someone or something.
Whether it is feminazis trying to shut down men; homosexuals trying to shut down heterosexuals; socialists trying to shut down freedom of opinion; kids being brainwashed about gender; you name it, the airways are full of hatred of everything conservative and traditional.
Never in the history of our nations have we seen such brazen bias and manipulation of our history and our cultures.
What staggers me is that we are losing this battle. Like ants overpowering an elephant, these creatures of narrow-minded and toxic evil are storming and multiplying like locusts. And they are devouring what little is left of decency.
From Google to MSM, CNN to BBC and the Australian government-owned ABC, to the shores of Sweden to the streets of San Francisco, everything is rotten and filled with the stench of decay of our historic identities.
Two events seemed to start this destruction of modern life. The importation of African and Middle Eastern moslems and the adoption of same-sex marriage. Is this a Religious war?
In the past 2 years, things have accelerated beyond belief. Trump?s election as President of the United States of America has been a catalyst to a Social Revolution that I cannot remember ever occurring on such a global level.
Before that, Clinton and the globalists had managed to create a stronghold ? one which was about to come to its final phase. Upon the election of Clinton, their triumph would have been absolute.
But they were thwarted. By the middle American who still felt that the apple pie represented their country more than a taco or a kebab.
All of the planning and staged manipulation of opinions and tolerance levels hit a road block.

Trump fought back, on behalf of America and American citizens. As much as Trump says that he is in it for America, we, who live in other nations, also rely on his defiance to uphold our country?s values and traditional sense of identity. He has become the Leader of Commonsense and by God, the globalists are fighting back and throwing everything they can at him and his band of loyal supporters.
? They ? know that if President Trump wins in 2020, they are buggered. He will have all the dirt that he has been collecting on their traitorous deeds and misdeeds and it will all come out. Not just in America but around the world. Of course, it does not matter what they change in terms of social manipulation ? they know that we have worked out that it is all out money and greed.
By weakening the traditional family unit, they are gaining control of the mind and will of the next generation. Children who have been taught that Mummy and Mummy is good and that it is okay to have an adult touch them in an intimate way. We are so worried about what we say that could offend the moslems or the gays or the transgenders. We have been neutered over an issue of sex. Our voices are being stifled by those that do not share our values. Yet they come here like locusts. Why? Why come here if you hate us so much? Is it because they are coming to change us? Is that the goal? Yes. They are coming to change us. And changing us is what they are doing so well.
What can we do to reverse this? How can we save our Nations, ourselves, our children and grandchildren from this creeping plague of indecency?
We cannot speak out ? that is censored. Or prosecuted. Or trolled. Or banned. Or all of the mentioned.
What the hell can we do? Well, keep talking about it. Write supportive comments to articles like this. Instead of reading, nodding and saying, silently, yes that sounds like how I feel? instead of reading and saying nothing, say something. Write something.
If you do not want your country taken over by this madness, just say No. One word. One comment. Just say No. If you do not, people like me will die of neglect and one day you will wonder where your voice went.
It went to the rubbish bin and sewer of complacency. How many free voices are left? People who are prepared to speak for you and themselves?We are becoming rare fruit on a withered vine.
Support those that support you. Without people like me, you are becoming reliant on a few big players. Never forget the little man. Because he is one of you. When my voice dies, part of your voice dies. Keep me alive and breathe another day.

[austingtir]

I know iv seen this guy before somewhere?

https://streamable.com/cvbw6?utm_sou...medium=ios_app

[sugilite:Me]

I actually saw this posted on the trademe messageboard...

What were they selling? - a steaming pile of outdated nationalistic dung?

decay of our historic identities

They mean the taking land by annexation, cynically killing of the existing population with disease and superior weapons? That is is an ancestral identity I'm happy to leave behind and EVOLVE as a race.

But they were thwarted. By the middle American who still felt that the apple pie represented their country more than a taco or a kebab.

More like the gullible who fell for Trumps lies of winding things back to the manufacturing hey-days of the 1950's.

Trump will have all the dirt that he has been collecting on their traitorous deeds and misdeeds and it will all come out.

Gawd, Trump cannot hold back information he thinks maybe beneficial to him, to the point of regularly blurting out sensitive state secrets publicly. If he had dirt, it would be out already - give me a break!

Our voices are being stifled by those that do not share our values.

Yes, apparently the Worlds far right wing bigots only have the trademe forums to get their msg out now.

creeping plague of indecency?

Yes, long live the Republican party with it's shining examples of decency such as keeping migrant children in worse conditions than POWs.

We cannot speak out ? that is censored. Or prosecuted. Or trolled. Or banned. Or all of the mentioned.

Oh the irony!

[austingtir]

Yes, long live the Republican party with it's shining examples of decency such as keeping migrant children in worse conditions than POWs.

Oh the irony!

Oh well I guess they will be sleeping on the floor now.... Jeez those democrats aye no compassion at all.




Liberals: The poor children have to sleep on the floor!!! Orange man bad!!!!

Also liberals: We aren’t gonna give beds to the children to make Orange Man look bad!!!

[sugilite:Me]

Oh well I guess they will be sleeping on the floor now.... Jeez those democrats aye no compassion at all.

OK, first of all, Wayfair bed employees are not the Democrat party, you know that eh?

A little googling finds out they are protesting that these facilities exist at all, they are there to separate children from their parents. A Trump initiative, not an Obama one as Trump continually fibs about.

As mentioned many times, what Trump needs to do is employ more judges to process immigrants paperwork faster.
The flood has been caused by Trumps shortsightedness and inexperience in anything remotely to do with running a country and it's Government departments. He caused the stampede himself as the arsehole people traffickers taking advantage of these people in need are saying "Trump is getting tough - you must go now". Trump is playing directly into their hands. How many of these disasters are of Trumps own making? Answer = Plenty.

So how do you explain the Trump employee in court the other day saying soap and toothpaste is not essential for children's health?

[austingtir]

OK, first of all, Wayfair bed employees are not the Democrat party, you know that eh?

A little googling finds out they are protesting that these facilities exist at all, they are there to separate children from their parents. A Trump initiative, not an Obama one as Trump continually fibs about.

As mentioned many times, what Trump needs to do is employ more judges to process immigrants paperwork faster.
The flood has been caused by Trumps shortsightedness and inexperience in anything remotely to do with running a country and it's Government departments. He caused the stampede himself as the arsehole people traffickers taking advantage of these people in need are saying "Trump is getting tough - you must go now". Trump is playing directly into their hands. How many of these disasters are of Trumps own making? Answer = Plenty.

So how do you explain the Trump employee in court the other day saying soap and toothpaste is not essential for children's health?

I cant help it if you believe every single shred of fake news you look at:

The fact is most of the children "seperated" from their parents likely werent with their actual parents when they crossed the border!!! Its that simple. Kids are being child trafficked across that border!!

So how in your mind do you sort out and make sure that kids aren being child trafficked? If you cant remove them from the smugglers/traffickers and figure it out? In 2018 10,000 kids were sent alone without their parents. How do you explain this??

Again I will spell it out so even a retard like you can understand: 10,000 of the 12,000 kids held in custody as at the date of the vid below came without their parents!!!!

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Again I will spell it out so even a retard like you can understand: 10,000 of the 12,000 kids held in custody as at the date of the vid below came without their parents!!!!

How quaint, you get you "facts" from White House briefings where fact checkers run out of ink pointing out all the lies. And you call me a retard?
And the soap and toothpaste?