The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**pritch** · 8th July 2019, 12:57

Originally Posted by Katman

This will be interesting to follow the developments of.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/n...ein-trump.html

It is, the tentacles could reach a long way. As yet the press reports are too vague to indicate exactly what is happening. They use journalists' words, not lawyers' words which would be more specific. Has Epstein been arrested because of a complaint, or has he actually been indicted?

It also matters what office is prosecuting this. The US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York have a reputation for prosecuting big names. By reputation the SDNY are legends in their own mind, but they will be very conservative with any charges. They will want to be virtually guaranteed of a win in court.

If it is them, SDNY is a Federal government office and therefore Trump can pardon any convictions that arise, including possibly himself. That may be a step too far for his bible bashing followers, although Judge Moore's alleged interest in underage girls didn't seem to put them off.

Barr as Attorney General can also put a halt to SDNY investigations.

Hopefully the next day or two will bring more detail.

**Katman** · 8th July 2019, 13:20

Originally Posted by pritch

If you want to read about a good conspiracy though, read Vol 1 of the Mueller report, nearly 200 contacts between Trump people and Russians as they colluded to install Putin's puppet.

How many puppets have America installed in office around the world over the years?

(And do try to come up with an answer that's a little more original than just "But, but, but Trump......").

**oldrider** · 8th July 2019, 13:33

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**oldrider** · 8th July 2019, 13:41

LOLITA EXPRESS' JEFFREY EPSTEIN - THE DISTURBING BACK STORY - https://www.bitchute.com/video/wuNoyM9z-Es/ - Don't know whether it's facts or not.

**jasonu** · 8th July 2019, 14:32

Originally Posted by Katman

(And do try to come up with an answer that's a little more original than just "But, but, but Trump......").

Don't hold your breath.

**pritch** · 8th July 2019, 14:34

Originally Posted by oldrider

LOLITA EXPRESS' JEFFREY EPSTEIN - THE DISTURBING BACK STORY - https://www.bitchute.com/video/wuNoyM9z-Es/ - Don't know whether it's facts or not.

That's consistent with what I've been reading all along. Can't say if it's accurate - but it is consistent.

**pritch** · 8th July 2019, 14:45

Originally Posted by Katman

How many puppets have America installed in office around the world over the years?

Not original, but from the Spectator some years back - thanks for reminding me.

The answer to the question why do American presidents throw their weight around, is the same as the answer to the question why do dogs lick their balls. The answer is because they can.

The answer to your question is more than a few. A lot of the problems Venezuela is experiencing are due to American interference. Trump tried to replace the elected president but failed and then seems to have lost interest. But that's just the latest.

For the US to be taken over by a foreign power is a whole nutha level though.

**Katman** · 8th July 2019, 14:47

Originally Posted by pritch

For the US to be taken over by a foreign power is a whole nutha level though.

Israel took them over years ago.

**oldrider** · 8th July 2019, 15:23

Originally Posted by Katman

Israel took them over years ago.

One does not have to look very hard to notice that the USA is clearly Israeli occupied territory. - Israeli Prime ministers have even boasted about it!

**Laava** · 8th July 2019, 16:13

Originally Posted by Katman

And you ostriches are getting ever more desperate to portray anyone who questions anything as 'raving lunatic conspiracy theorists'.

It wasn't long ago that 'chemtrails' was the go-to for trying to ridicule those with a different opinion - until people started to wake up to the fact that geo-engineering is a very real thing and suddenly realised that "hey, that sounds a lot like spraying chemicals in our atmosphere".

Lol! And when I asked you what you believe what they are spraying and why they are doing it, you just got all butthurt and went off on one of your tangents, again.

**Laava** · 8th July 2019, 16:16

Originally Posted by austingtir

You are the poster child example for why the left cant meme!

Nobody brought up flat earth except your scrambled brain.

Chortle .... Who even says that? Other than complete nerds.

https://tenor.com/view/flat-face-not...d-gif-13377639

I don't see much difference between flat earthers and fuckwits that are still in denial about Obamas birthplace. The facts are easily found, but don't let that stop you, you just carry on blindly!

**austingtir** · 8th July 2019, 16:53

The Jerry Epstein thing is a BIG deal. IF the MSM wasnt controlled by certain people this would be the biggest story in the world right now imo.

The connections back to the clintons, NXIVM, pizzagate etc etc are crazy.

The mere fact they have arrested him proves alot of conspiracies of the last 5 years or so hold more water than most people would like to admit.

**oldrider** · 8th July 2019, 18:03

Trump Was 'Only One' To Help Prosecutor In 2009 Epstein Case? -

- https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...9-epstein-case -

**austingtir** · 8th July 2019, 18:50

Originally Posted by oldrider

Trump Was 'Only One' To Help Prosecutor In 2009 Epstein Case? -

- https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...9-epstein-case -

Trump banned epstein from his resorts when he figured out what he was upto with the girls.

The likes of Clinton, Kevin Spacey and Kevin Hart have alot of questions to answer imo. Many many others involved including links to Royal family and other billionaires like Branson and co.

Trump has known what the elite have been upto for a very very long time. I think after the election many people are going to be in for a shock in what might come out.

My personal opinion is if the actual scope of it all came out it would crash all the wests economies. Thats how big I think this is and how deep it all goes.

Thats why I dont think the average pleb like you and me will ever know how bad this stuff actually was (and I think I have a better idea than most people out there having followed all this very closely for a long time).

Dunno if any of you have noticed there seems to of been a shit ton of low level pedophiles or child/people traffickers arrested since Trump was elected. IMO that was no co-incidence.... And is why the media and elite really dont like Trump. Like thats the actual REAL reason!

Anyway tinfoil hat off. For now.

**pritch** · 8th July 2019, 18:53

Originally Posted by Katman

Israel took them over years ago.

Not sure Israel have totally managed that yet, but they are working on it. They certainly have Yank politicians on the payroll.

Can't quite remember the detail, but there have been people protesting Israeli shipping in the US. There was a move made to make protesting Israel a crime. If they get that through Congress, yep that could be described as a takeover.