The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[pritch]

Jared has a remarkable record of not disclosing information. If it wasn't for his father in law he would never have received a security clearance. It would seem that once again he forgot to mention something...


https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushn...e-house-729290

[sugilite:Me]

Jared has a remarkable record of not disclosing information. If it wasn't for his father in law he would never have received a security clearance. It would seem that once again he forgot to mention something...


https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushn...e-house-729290

No conflict of interest there at all.
Clean Up The Swamp 101 - Throw in an extra bunch of turds.

[pritch]

Another howler. Trump has congratulated the Kansas City Chiefs on their Super Bowl win, "you represented the Great State of Kansas and, in fact, the entire USA, so very well."

Except that Kansas City is in Missouri. He has now replaced the original tweet with one mentioning the correct state but the original is still out there.

[jasonu]

Another howler. Trump has congratulated the Kansas City Chiefs on their Super Bowl win, "you represented the Great State of Kansas and, in fact, the entire USA, so very well."

Except that Kansas City is in Missouri. He has now replaced the original tweet with one mentioning the correct state but the original is still out there.

Have you even stepped foot outside of New Zealand?

[husaberg]

Jared has a remarkable record of not disclosing information. If it wasn't for his father in law he would never have received a security clearance. It would seem that once again he forgot to mention something...


https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushn...e-house-729290

His security clearance was given despite objections of intelligence officials, The White House chief of staff, and the then-White House counsel, all of whom were reportedly worried about Jared's “foreign and business contacts"
He also forgot to mention he owes over a billion dollars to 20 different lenders and personal guarantees to pay more than $US300 million
Plus he has business ties with George Soros, Peter Thiel, and Goldman Sachs. it must have slipped his mind as he failed to mention this as well.
His company was also miraculously bailed out by Qatar investment firm at the 11th hour with a billion dollar loan that is basically 99 years worth of lease upfront.
they have tried to get money all around the world with no luck.

[Bonez]

If Shift can get a security clearance anyone sould be able to. He's the biggest security risk to the country.

[oldrider]

The absolute crux of the matter:- https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/statu...rymakow.com%2F -

[TheDemonLord]

I see that all the anti-Trumpers are getting their jabs in before the Impeachment clown show falls flat on it's face.

[sugilite:Me]

If Shift can get a security clearance anyone sould be able to. He's the biggest security risk to the country.

Did Schiff need daddykins to issue him security clearence when the people paid to spot multiple "Conflicts of Interest" declined him

I see that all the anti-Trumpers are getting their jabs in before the Impeachment clown show falls flat on it's face.

Yes, an Impeachment trial with no witnesses. Republicans just want to call those for the important stuff like Presidents getting blow jobs from interns

[TheDemonLord]

Yes, an Impeachment trial with no witnesses. Republicans just want to call those for the important stuff like Presidents getting blow jobs from interns

Is that more or less corrupt than the clearly partisan 'process' that was the Impeachment on clearly trumped up charges by the Democrats?

[sugilite:Me]

Is that more or less corrupt than the clearly partisan 'process' that was the Impeachment on clearly trumped up charges by the Democrats?

He Broke the law by doing a quick quid pro, he got caught. No doubt that did not happen. In my opinion the real corruption and the usual bout of obstruction was performed by trump.

[TheDemonLord]

He Broke the law by doing a quick quid pro, he got caught. No doubt that did not happen. In my opinion the real corruption and the usual bout of obstruction was performed by trump.

If that's how you see it, then fair enough.

I personally didn't see anything done that hasn't been done umpteen times before in international diplomacy, the charge that it benefited Trump personally is IMO very weak - if I remember the timelines correctly, this happened before Biden had launched his nomination campaign.

As for the 'Obstruction' - I don't subscribe to the 'If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide' view, in fact as I get older I tend to take more of the view that it is your duty and obligation as a citizen to challenge every and all access to your private affairs by the state, to ensure that they are not overstepping their bounds.

When this is circled back to Trump - I don't have any doubt that any calls for 'release of records' or 'witnesses' are the polar opposite of the self-less acts of virtue, begrudgingly made for the good of the country that they profess to be.

As an aside, I remember when a certain Email Server was mysteriously wiped after it had been subpoenaed, so even if I were to accept your premise - I see this as a Goose and Gander situation.

[Bonez]

If that's how you see it, then fair enough.

I personally didn't see anything done that hasn't been done umpteen times before in international diplomacy, the charge that it benefited Trump personally is IMO very weak - if I remember the timelines correctly, this happened before Biden had launched his nomination campaign.

As for the 'Obstruction' - I don't subscribe to the 'If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide' view, in fact as I get older I tend to take more of the view that it is your duty and obligation as a citizen to challenge every and all access to your private affairs by the state, to ensure that they are not overstepping their bounds.

When this is circled back to Trump - I don't have any doubt that any calls for 'release of records' or 'witnesses' are the polar opposite of the self-less acts of virtue, begrudgingly made for the good of the country that they profess to be.

As an aside, I remember when a certain Email Server was mysteriously wiped after it had been subpoenaed, so even if I were to accept your premise - I see this as a Goose and Gander situation.

Lets not forget the blackberries that were unauthorized for govt. dept. use also subpenoened and destroyed. That and the server are in the public record.

[sugilite:Me]

If that's how you see it, then fair enough.

I personally didn't see anything done that hasn't been done umpteen times before in international diplomacy, the charge that it benefited Trump personally is IMO very weak - if I remember the timelines correctly, this happened before Biden had launched his nomination campaign.

As for the 'Obstruction' - I don't subscribe to the 'If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide' view, in fact as I get older I tend to take more of the view that it is your duty and obligation as a citizen to challenge every and all access to your private affairs by the state, to ensure that they are not overstepping their bounds.

When this is circled back to Trump - I don't have any doubt that any calls for 'release of records' or 'witnesses' are the polar opposite of the self-less acts of virtue, begrudgingly made for the good of the country that they profess to be.

As an aside, I remember when a certain Email Server was mysteriously wiped after it had been subpoenaed, so even if I were to accept your premise - I see this as a Goose and Gander situation.

I'm dealing with what Trump did and now.
I do not disagree with you on the Hillary shinanigans.
For the record, I feel the Hunter Biden thing stinks to all heaven as well. It will absolutely kill Bidens election chances, as the boat anchor of the email saga followed Hillary around too. The Dem bosses will keep their heads firmly in the sand, the dick heads.

I would be perfectly happy to see the Clinton's and Trump ultimately share adjacent jail cells.

AOC for 2024 - Then the snow flakes will be red colored

[pritch]

Fuck! Hillary's emails. You know it's a lost cause when that crops up. The rest of the post is no better, sorry I haven't got the patience.

For the record. There were no missing emails. According to the FBI, what Trump claimed are missing emails is the stuff the fBI had weeded out because it related to family or social matters, they were not State Dept business.

Andrew McCabe, then FBI Director, discusses the emails in his book but I guess that didn't make Fox News.