I hate f^%&$ Apple Inc and all things Apple

[Gearup]

Back then I basically had a cell phone for when I was on the bike so I didn't want a plan. The phone was used for texts occasionally but rarely to make a call. I had no idea what all the apps were for and had no use for them and it wouldn't let me delete the ones I didn't use. Which was nearly all of them.

Then there was the updating thing I mentioned.

Even Martin Cooper, the lead engineer of the Motorola team that developed the first mobile phone, reckoned they had become too complex and tried to do too many things.
However, going by sales figures, it seems people want more and more special features and it looks unlikely to change.

[Bonez]

I guess I'd better buy a stack of CDs and burn the iTunes music I want to keep on to discs?

Save them to a USB stick(or two) and external hard drive first. Far cheaper in the end....

[sugilite:Me]

The last apple I liked was the Apple 11e.
I bought up all my kids to dislike apple. My eldest son who was one of the stanchest apple haters got one when he met his girlfriend, and the whole family went WTF. After a while he saw the error of his ways and went back to android! His girlfriend is on android now as well, so she can stay in the family now - still got a weary eye on her though lol
I have acquired apple devices in the past so I can test my websites using them and without exception. Every bloody one of them has broken. I phones, ipads and i-macs have all gone poof - I'm pretty sure the "i" stands for implode.
The case that took the biscuit is when I opened the imac and the keyboard had a huge bubble under it and the mouse pad had popped up too. WTF. I took it apart and the battery packs has exploded in their funny bag holders. So a bit of research later... It was a known thing. Apples response? Yes, Lithium batteries can do that -sux to be you.

After much resistance due to deep love of mp3's, my kids finally got me on to spotify. I went pro right away, then upgraded to the seriously attractive family package. Have not looked back since - LOVE it! In settings, pays to set the download music to device quality to highest setting.

[JimO]

all you apple haters, its not compulsary to buy them you know, didnt samsung have problems with their phones going on fire?...over the years i have had all sorts of cellphones including my first, motorola microtac which cost $2200, all it did was make and take calls, all of them have shit themselves eventually until i bought my first iphone, i keep them a couple of years then upgrade to a new model, the old ones get sold on on TM, they get a hard life in a tradesmans pocket, dust, dropped etc. no problems at all with any of them.

[Bonez]

Difference is Samsung did a tptal recall. It's take Apple about three/four iterations of their butterfly keyboards before they woke up to customer complants. They aerer abandonding them in the newer models.

[Berries]

I bought up all my kids to dislike apple.

Jeez, that's some issue you have.

Have never had to buy a cellphone, always been supplied with an iPhone through various jobs. Never had a problem. The first proper home computer I bought was an iMac some 15+ years ago. On my second now, one HD failure which was replaced for free. Have managed to kill two work Dell laptops in the last five years. Wife dropped her iPhone and went and brought a Samsung but life is too short and I got too frustrated trying to understand it. Kids both have iPhones because in my experience they just work. Same with the iMac. One very old iPad in the house, still works fine.

I pity the Apple fanatics, it's just a brand. Some of the anti people are just as bad though as evidenced in this thread. Needed a laptop for a second job, went for a Dell solely because of cost vs screen size. But if I had to buy my own cell phone it would be an earlier 'cheap' iPhone and if I had to replace my iMac it would be with another one.

[sugilite:Me]

Jeez, that's some issue you have.

Yes it is - with apple. Every apple device I have ever had expired with very light use.
In comparison, if they were bikes, they would all be sub 10,000 km's as to when they expired.
So if you purchased 3 Kawasaki's that then shit themselves so quickly, how likely would you want another?
As for operating systems, I find them all pretty easy to navigate.

[onearmedbandit]

I think what we can take from this is everyone's mileage varies.

[MD]

The last apple I liked was the Apple 11e.


After much resistance due to deep love of mp3's, my kids finally got me on to spotify. I went pro right away, then upgraded to the seriously attractive family package. Have not looked back since - LOVE it! In settings, pays to set the download music to device quality to highest setting.

Cheers, appreciate that info.

[sugilite:Me]

Cheers, appreciate that info.

No worries, if you using desktop version of spotify premium. The following applies. As you search on music and like it (clicking on the heart beside the player controls) it starts building you a playlist of liked tracks. It also learns what you like and builds playlists that change weekly - you find them under the "made for you" heading. The two main lists are called "Discover Weekly" and "Release Radar". I have discovered lots of new artists (to me) using Discover Weekly. Release radar seems more miss than hit, but it has it's moments. Once you find a new artist, click on their name and it will load their top 5 listened too tracks across all their albums, you can drop that list down to 10. So you get a instant good selection of music to select from your latest new find artist. To do an even deeper dive when mining for new music - from that artists profile page, click on "fans also like" and wallah, you get a good list of other artists you may not of heard of that also play that genre of music. Then mine away
As you prob already know, with premium, you can set it to download your liked tracks to your phone, which you can then listen to offline if you choose. There is a bug that crops up from time to time, and that is when you are offline, it simply refuses to start playing a track. To get around it, simply fast forward or back to the next track and it wakes up.

[merv]

Back then I basically had a cell phone for when I was on the bike so I didn't want a plan. The phone was used for texts occasionally but rarely to make a call. I had no idea what all the apps were for and had no use for them and it wouldn't let me delete the ones I didn't use. Which was nearly all of them.

Then there was the updating thing I mentioned.

Haven't you just described exactly what an iPhone would be like to someone who just wanted a basic phone too?

[F5 Dave]

No worries, if you using desktop version of spotify premium. The following applies. As you search on music and like it (clicking on the heart beside the player controls) it starts building you a playlist of liked tracks. It also learns what you like and builds playlists that change weekly - you find them under the "made for you" heading. The two main lists are called "Discover Weekly" and "Release Radar". I have discovered lots of new artists (to me) using Discover Weekly. Release radar seems more miss than hit, but it has it's moments. Once you find a new artist, click on their name and it will load their top 5 listened too tracks across all their albums, you can drop that list down to 10. So you get a instant good selection of music to select from your latest new find artist. To do an even deeper dive when mining for new music - from that artists profile page, click on "fans also like" and wallah, you get a good list of other artists you may not of heard of that also play that genre of music. Then mine away
As you prob already know, with premium, you can set it to download your liked tracks to your phone, which you can then listen to offline if you choose. There is a bug that crops up from time to time, and that is when you are offline, it simply refuses to start playing a track. To get around it, simply fast forward or back to the next track and it wakes up.

I'll keep those tips in mind when we get family premium. Took me a while to remember how to spell voila. English language can be dumb. But it's French apparently.

[pritch]

Haven't you just described exactly what an iPhone would be like to someone who just wanted a basic phone too?

Apple seem to let you delete apps you don't want. The Android phones don't appear to consider that an option. Or it might be that it can be done, but I just didn't know how.

[Jeeper]

Apple seem to let you delete apps you don't want. The Android phones don't appear to consider that an option. Or it might be that it can be done, but I just didn't know how.

Not all Android phones are the same. Samsung and LG have their own apps which can't be deleted (but they can be disabled). Hence I avoid both brands. Google Pixel is the purest form of Android and much more user customisable than any other versions.

[Scuba_Steve]

My biggest issue with Apple has always been the cost of the hardware, so I try to buy refurbished or second hand wherever possible.

Apples to Apples they're actually decently priced... The problem is they keep using the wrong Apples [*cough* Intel (especially xeon), & AMD GFX]
I.E. if you were to buy the same components they use you'd be hard pressed to beat on price & that's ignoring the custom extras you can't replicate effectively. The thing is almost no-one would buy the configuration of components they use in current day; not like 10yrs ago where what they sold is what you'd buy.