MotoGP 2020

[pritch]

Interesting comment listening to Simon interviewing Davide Brivio. Mr Brivio feels that if a race is red flagged there should be no changes to the bikes. They should go out again on the same tyres, fuel load and mapping that they came in with.

Obviously his view is coloured by recent experience but he has a point. The restart is not a new race, it should be the continuation of an interrupted race.

I guess Suzuki made their point of view known to Race Direction.

[jato]

a fortnight ago it looked like Yamaha's were all deep in it - so quite a surprise to see them all at the front of the grid for tonight's race... will have to watch this one live. hopefully jack can keep it together.

[roogazza]

Nice to see the young Doocati dudes doin ok Miller and Bags.
Dovi might have left the building already ?

[Autech]

What's the boys thoughts on Darryn Binder?
Seems all to often he's qualifying low, barging his way to the front the doing as his last name denotes, binned her...

Definitely has the pace but he's been in Moto3 forever... Wonder if we'll see him ever make the final step

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[mulletman]

Nice to see the young Doocati dudes doin ok Miller and Bags.
Dovi might have left the building already ?

Bagnaia best of the rest behind the Yamahas ?

[mulletman]

What's the boys thoughts on Darryn Binder?
Seems all to often he's qualifying low, barging his way to the front the doing as his last name denotes, binned her...

Definitely has the pace but he's been in Moto3 forever... Wonder if we'll see him ever make the final step

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Yeah i rekon he 'll get there after all Rossi and Stoner crashed plenty of times and come out more that ok.

[pritch]

Yeah i rekon he 'll get there after all Rossi and Stoner crashed plenty of times and come out more that ok.

"It's easier to slow a crasher than speed up a slow rider."
Rossi crashed a lot in his first year, won the title in the next.

[pritch]

Interesting thought from Mat Oxley.

"Motorcycle racing is never not weird: the MotoGP class with the tightest regs is Moto2 - same engine, same gearbox, same tyres, same software, same clutch, same fuel, same oil, same rim sizes, combined bike/rider minimum weight limit etc - but the racing is the most spread out."

[Autech]

"It's easier to slow a crasher than speed up a slow rider."
Rossi crashed a lot in his first year, won the title in the next.

Thats what I am thinking and hoping, but be good to see him not chuck it away so often.

Anyone else wonder whats going on with Albert Arenas' engine to make him so much faster in than everything around him?
You'd assume Honda would give everyone identical packages but hes got a clear advantage over the pack when he hits nitrous. Not the smallest rider too so it's an odd one.

Interesting thought from Mat Oxley.

"Motorcycle racing is never not weird: the MotoGP class with the tightest regs is Moto2 - same engine, same gearbox, same tyres, same software, same clutch, same fuel, same oil, same rim sizes, combined bike/rider minimum weight limit etc - but the racing is the most spread out."

Its a bizarre conundrum, I remember the first few seasons of Moto2 being shit fights all the way and then its slowly spread out over the years. With the switch to the Triumph engine I had hopes it'd bring them back tighter but that's not been the case.
I wonder if its the law of diminishing returns being shown, essentially the teams that can eeek that last few tenths out of the package can make the difference however small it may be.
Throw in one rider that qualifies well but doesn't do so well in the races like the German chap and you get big gaps forming with guys like Bastianini being held up behind him. I'd say if the beast was in the mix it'd have been a bigger fight the whole way through as he's not in VR46, but he's still under the umbrella so may not have been too rough.
All I know is that during moto2 I scroll on my for most of the race and look up when things happen, speaking of which that save was excellent, it seems the newer generation will be doing a Marquez on the daily now.

[steveyb]

1) Arenas is riding KTM, not Honda. I wonder if there are tweaks to the KTM engine that some teams have worked out or been told, some not. Perhaps though, his apparent speed advantage came due to over riding the bike and that is now biting him in the ass?
2) Divebomb Darren is a liability in terms of expecting a result. Absolute magic if all you are after is screen and commentator time, no question. Results? Good luck with that. He is simply over the edge with his speed vs ability equation. It seems to be that his 'finish the race' speed is about 5th - 10th place. His 'lead the race' speed always ends up either in the gravel or in 5th - 10th place. There can be no comparison to Rossi etc as Darren has been crashing for many years now, not just one. I am a fan, but not so much that I choose him in the Cormac Racing team sweepstake each race. John McPhee all the way!!! LOL.
3) Real shame for Raul Fernandez.
4) Moto2 is still cool. The racing is just different. I think the purity of it is pretty neat. Real shame for Remy. He is really showing great speed. But KTM really do need to reintroduce their bike. They sorted it out in the latter half of 2019, Binder, Oliviera and Lecuona were all riding it well, so it would be a welcome reintroduction.

[sugilite:Me]

Its a bizarre conundrum, I remember the first few seasons of Moto2 being shit fights all the way and then its slowly spread out over the years. With the switch to the Triumph engine I had hopes it'd bring them back tighter but that's not been the case.
I wonder if its the law of diminishing returns being shown, essentially the teams that can eeek that last few tenths out of the package can make the difference however small it may be.

I'm wondering that if one rider makes no mistakes and the others make a small handful, that with the bikes are so close now, it is nigh on impossible for the riders to claw back the difference?

[Autech]

1) Arenas is riding KTM, not Honda. I wonder if there are tweaks to the KTM engine that some teams have worked out or been told, some not. Perhaps though, his apparent speed advantage came due to over riding the bike and that is now biting him in the ass?

I must have got my names mixed up, I think its Tony Arbolino on the rocket Honda. I'll reconfirm in a weeks time. Too many names!
It's interesting how the pendulum has swung back n forward over the years of moto3 between the KTM and Honda, when Miller was there he was the only guy doing anything great on the KTM despite a speed deficit, then if I recall correctly the next year the KTMs were slaughtering the Hondas on the straight. Its swung back and forth a few times but it seems this year the KTM is roughly as fast as the Hondas.
Every few years or so someone special like Mir or Brad Binder click with the bike underneath them and dominate the field. I love seeing someone break away in Moto3 as you know damn well they're doing something pretty special when they achieve it.

I'm wondering that if one rider makes no mistakes and the others make a small handful, that with the bikes are so close now, it is nigh on impossible for the riders to claw back the difference?

At this track it's also the riders themselves, the VR46 riders live at Misano apparently on street bikes, know the track inside out so it's little wonder so many of them did so well on Sunday.
Wonder with an extra week if any of the spaniards will be there for a look, its a shame Martin has the covid as he's looking to be the strongest non Italian challenger. Remy Gardiner is doing bloody well on a year old bike too, clearly having to over ride the package to get a result.

[mulletman]

Albert Arenas had a horrid crash it was a strange highside, the rear chattering with not much lean and over he went.
John McPhee did a great job winning another chaotic but excellent watching moto3 race.

Anyone else see The Beasts save ? lost it in a lowside and 'Marquezed' it back up well done Enea.

Mavericks back up on the fastest lap times again during testing yesterday and working with the medium rear , probably doesnt mean much eh lol cause the local fellas VR,PB,FM who live near the track are only going to be better this week... does anyone know why Mavs bike was smoking after the sighting lap at the weekend ?

[Reckless]

Anyone else thinking Maverick can't seem to get his head in the game during a race??

[mulletman]

Anyone else thinking Maverick can't seem to get his head in the game during a race??

Yeah needs a lie down on a couch and tell someone his woes...