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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    In 2020 Trump is the biggest source of disinformation, the Russians are a long way back.
    Apparently pritch reported that President Trump was Putin’s puppet.

    Just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Yes, I've noticed how Biden has picked up a hell of a lot of right leaning endorsements. It is not hard to work out why that is.
    Because they are establishment type Conservatives who don't understand the fundamental principles of individual sovereignty that Conservatism is based on?

    You saw the same thing with Brexit in the UK in the Conservative party that nearly ended up destroying it.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I didn't think there was much Spencer and I would agree on, but he said, "The liberals are clearly more competent people."
    No argument from me.

    https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o...ocrats-n832500
    Bloody hell Pritch.

    Just stop for a moment and think about WHY he said that.

    Why would someone who advocates for Racial segragation and an 'Ethno-State', restrictions in Free Speech and the State as a Moral actor - why would they endorse Biden?

    I'll give you a clue:

    The White Supremecist says: "White people are inherently special, therefore they should rule over everyone"
    The current Left-wing says: "White people are inherently spec... privileged, therefore they need to be guilty about it"

    The bit that is the issue is the first part... the actually racist part.

    When Richard Spencer makes that comment, he's not doing it out of any laudable goal, He's doing it because he has a vested self-interest in promoting the group that promotes things like 'Critical Race Theory' - as it does 90% of his job for him.

    He's saying they are more competent because they agree with his fundamental racist beliefs, not because he thinks they can run the country well.

    And for that reason, when Richard Spencer says that, You, of all people, should absolutely raise one hell of an Argument with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Look at that wonderful smile President Trump has on his face.

    Just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Because they are establishment type Conservatives who don't understand the fundamental principles of individual sovereignty that Conservatism is based on?

    You saw the same thing with Brexit in the UK in the Conservative party that nearly ended up destroying it.
    So you cast all these defectors under the same umbrella huh? Could it be because Trump is an immoral turd completely incapable of doing the right thing?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...for-supporters

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    So you cast all these defectors under the same umbrella huh? Could it be because Trump is an immoral turd completely incapable of doing the right thing?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...for-supporters
    I'm not sure if that was the correct link, but I'll clarify my comment - in NZ, the UK and the US - recently I've seen a large base of so-called right-wing politicians who don't seem to understand what Conservatism means at it's deepest level.

    There's the Conservative for Conservative's sake types e.g. "We've always done it like that, so we'll always continue to do it like that"
    There's the Religious Conservatives types e.g. "The Bible says to do it like that, so we should do it like that"
    Then there is the 'true' Conservative e.g. "We want to have the smallest influence over your life possible, to ensure a well run system"

    It's distinct from Libertarianism, in that it accepts that there must be certain boundaries and encroachment of personal freedoms by the state for a functioning system (for example, a Search Warrant), but that these should be tightly bounded with appropriate oversight.

    You could probably post a list of National MPs for example who both you and I would agree are Twats and whilst me might broker a difference on the whys, most of them that I would place in the 'Twat' category would be due to their alignment with the first 2 groups.

    Getting back to the Libertarian aspect - the rise of ACT and David Seymour as a fundamentally Libertarian option is a testament to what I mean.
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    Wtf

    “Take away your guns, take away your Second Amendment. No religion, no anything. Hurt the Bible. Hurt God. He’s against God.”
    When President Trump uttered these words last week, he sparked the usual outrage in the world beyond his base. His accusations against Joe Biden, who is a serious Catholic Christian, who has not indicated distaste for the Second Amendment, seemed so wide of the mark and so completely undisciplined (“hurt God”?) that they were dismissed as a spasm of desperation from an incumbent now well behind in the polls. One commentator said Mr. Trump was just throwing mud at the wall in the hopes that something would stick.
    https://www.governing.com/context/Pl...n-History.html

    In 2015, after Trump said he attends Marble, the church publicly stated he "is not an active member" of the church. In November 2019, Trump appointed his personal pastor, televangelist Paula White, to the White House Office of Public Liaison.

    Yet I never knew this or cared really but its interesting how desperate Trump is getting to cast aspersions on other where he is actually lacking.
    Biden, who carries a rosary in his pocket and attends Mass every Sunday, is known as a deeply devout person of faith, and his campaign sees electoral implications in that — in part because Biden has tried to frame this election as a clear moral contrast between Trump and himself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    His accusations against Joe Biden, who is a serious Catholic Christian, who has not indicated distaste for the Second Amendment
    Except, y'know when he said 'DAMN RIGHT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR AR-15s!'

    Which would indicate quite the distaste for the 2nd Amendment.

    Something Something 'Shall not be infringed' something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Except, y'know when he said 'DAMN RIGHT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR AR-15s!'

    Which would indicate quite the distaste for the 2nd Amendment.
    Or just a distaste for the public having assault weapons meant for war. They are simply designed to kill as many human beings as efficiently and as quickly as possible. The public simply do not need such weapons. End fucking of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Or just a distaste for the public having assault weapons meant for war. They are simply designed to kill as many human beings as efficiently and as quickly as possible. The public simply do not need such weapons. End fucking of.
    Maybe the well regulated militia should fight them with bow and arrows and slingshots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Or just a distaste for the public having assault weapons meant for war. They are simply designed to kill as many human beings as efficiently and as quickly as possible. The public simply do not need such weapons. End fucking of.
    Silly, you are forgetting that TDL knows more about the US constitution than that US Supreme court does.
    The Supreme Court on Monday said it will not hear appeals of a slew of cases involving gun laws, dealing a blow to Second Amendment activists who seek to expand the rights of gun owners.
    In an order released Monday morning, the court denied petitions for appeals of 10 cases.
    The cases rejected by the court involved questions of whether laws banning interstate handgun sales in some cases violate the Second Amendment, whether there is a constitutional right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense, if Illinois and Massachusetts can ban assault rifles and large-capacity ammunition magazines, and whether a state can limit handgun permits to people who demonstrate a specific need for self-defense.
    But hey TDL will still claim to know more and argue they are wrong plus all sorts of arguments that were never made ad infinitum while ignoring the elephant in the womb with the comb over and any and all lies he tells.......
    What's the bet he still claims he is right even when the US supreme court has already ruled he is a not.

    Supreme Court
    The Supreme Court is the highest court in the United States. Article III of the U.S. Constitution created the Supreme Court and authorized Congress to pass laws establishing a system of lower courts. In the federal court system’s present form, 94 district level trial courts and 13 courts of appeals sit below the Supreme Court.

    but above this we had TDL a man who is not a judge or even a lawyer.............

    https://www.law.com/nationallawjourn...20200905041812



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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Or just a distaste for the public having assault weapons meant for war. They are simply designed to kill as many human beings as efficiently and as quickly as possible. The public simply do not need such weapons. End fucking of.
    Despite Husa's protestations, the 2nd Amendment, both in it's theoretical conception and it's implementation was definitive about the Public having weapons meant for War.

    This is because one of the reasons for having it in the first place was so that the Public could fight a war against the state, should the state turn tyrannical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Silly, you are forgetting that TDL knows more about the US constitution than that US Supreme court does.


    But hey TDL will still claim to know more and argue they are wrong plus all sorts of arguments that were never made ad infinitum while ignoring the elephant in the womb with the comb over and any and all lies he tells.......
    Interesting how you included in your list, Magazine Capacity laws, perhaps you should look at the recent ruling by the US Federal court on the matter, specifically that California's High Capacity Magazines are unconstitutional.

    So in this case, it's not that I claim to know more, it's that I just need to point to their latest ruling and claim that YOU are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Or just a distaste for the public having assault weapons meant for war. They are simply designed to kill as many human beings as efficiently and as quickly as possible. The public simply do not need such weapons. End fucking of.

    Liar.
    1. Ar15 is not an "assault weapon".
    2. They are not designed for killing people.

    Stop lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger Mouse View Post
    Liar.
    1. Ar15 is not an "assault weapon".
    2. They are not designed for killing people.

    Stop lying.
    You must be a man for fine distinctions. Mind explaining why an AR15 is not an assault weapon? Not arguing, just seeking to understand.
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