Was it?Originally Posted by pritch
I'm rather skeptical of that claim, given the nature of Telegram (end-to-end Encryption for anonymity) and the fact that there's no hard evidence put forward publicly.
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Was it?
I'm rather skeptical of that claim, given the nature of Telegram (end-to-end Encryption for anonymity) and the fact that there's no hard evidence put forward publicly.
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Think you spelt insane wrong
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Too old to die
LOL. They both apply.Think you spelt insane wrong
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Well, this is awkward...
This is appalling but not especially surprising to me.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-...JEWHKCEJTPORQ/
I don't think you could call this "slipping through the cracks" given how hard the family appears to have tried to get help for him, just a complete failure of care.
Will be interesting to see what the official response is to this case (and the other home isolation deaths so far).
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That is fucking disgusting, they should have just rung an ambulance, I wonder if the others that died at home had a similar experience
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Wonder if he was a smoker... coz they left me to die at home for that reason over the period of 10 months. Eventually got hospitalised when Wifey picked up the phone and explained the situation as I kneeled hypoxic on the floor. Slipped through the cracks or written off by another complacent doctor? Likely the former, but hey, when the odds are in your favour, no need to examine people further, just play the odds and then say sorry afterwards.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Geriatric hoon
Be as skeptical as you like. I read a lot of news, probably much more than most. I have more time. If I see an item I may not necessarily recall where.
Parler was a noted RWNJ means of communication, and I did join to keep an eye on what the imbeciles were uo to. That was enough, I don't need further confirmation so I didn't sign up for Telegram.
Your faith in end to end encryption is touching but possibly misinformed? The idiots making the threats had used what appeared to be their real names and photographs.
I assume those receiving the messages can take screen shots? And bear in mind that some Telegram "influencers" have hundreds of thousand of subscribers, any one of whom could be a journalist, law enforcement, or just be sane.
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Forum whore
Cant understand why the PM wants to let AK people out of AK for the summer holidays...'covid is coming' (to the rest of NZ) says Chris Hipkins , knowingly letting possible infected people beyond AK is BS. Let AK people go level 1 in AK then see if it gets out of hand or not and whether the health system can cope Before letting them out to greater NZ.
Meanwhile Andrew Little said 'the system was only prepared for 100-120 hospital admissions a day not 150-200 , why gamble on other DHBs preparedness if AK ones are not coping ?
Sure it will get down here and get a foot hold somewhere and maybe other parts of NZ but why open the flood gates ?
Geriatric hoon
A major reason will be all of the pressure being applied by the opposition leader, David Seymour, and by minor party politicians like Judith Collins, as well as various industry spokespersons. All of whom are more concerned with money than with people, and who seem to believe the virus will work to their timetable.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
She is terrified of regime collapse. For weeks now we heard from the govt that Auckland couldnÂ’t/wouldnÂ’t sustain another level 4 lockdown for a variety of reasons.
Soon as she said that people saw the glint of weakness and ran with it...
Call them rentamob or whatever but the recent various large protests showed people are really worn out from the lockdowns and other stuff and prepared to break rules to protest.
She is terrified of having happen what is going on in Australia, and over there the police have way much more resources but only just keeping things in check.
Also itÂ’s at time of peak vaccine effectiveness for bulk of population so itÂ’s prob great time for exposure to help the body experience it and build immune system for the next strain that is coming.
And three million people on AucklandÂ’s beaches prob wouldnÂ’t end to well either....
LetÂ’s not forget the two shots for summer bro... weÂ’ve just had a big propoganda campaign to get vaxxed so we can go back to do the things we love, all that 90% bullshit too. So people would be asking why did we get jabbed if no freedoms etc.... they ran a slick media campaign and now they have to deliver or the illusion of success falls apart for them.
If you play poker long enough eventually someone calls your hand, JackieÂ’s been talking like she holding four aces....
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So it is propaganda to get people vaccinated is it?
Because of the desire to get chips into people yeah? Please tell us more oh wise one. Because we sooo respect what you say.
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
Look, I'm not going to say 'False Flag', but you have a messaging system think Facebook Messenger (primarily 1 to 1 communication), as opposed to a distribution system (like Instagram) - which is primarily 1:1 communication with some group functionality - You want me to believe that people who are distrusting of the Government, would use their real identities and that one of them would be so upset at this, that they would take a screenshot and send it to the very institution(s) that they are opposed to?
Does that sound more reasonable or less reasonable than some Activist fabricating 'evidence' to 'justify' their actions?
But by all means, if you can show the original report, I'd be interested to read/see it - as I said, I'm skeptical.
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Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
Well they would if they were fake FBI patsies....
Anyone whose spent five mins reading into any conspiracies knows that “encryption” is only for govt agencies. Anything used by general public is WIDE OPEN to read via manufacturer installed backdoors in chipsets and devices/operating systems.
Quite surprised by the gangs caught up in all this, thosecfellas have lots of spare time to read in slammer and thought they’d be last to trust electronic Comms.
Even the KGB went back to typewriters 10 years ago as they kneecap anything could be cracked/ hacked read....
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
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IBM Selectric typewriters at the US Embassy in Wellington in the mid 80s (I serviced the typewriters as Thorndon was in my territory) had extra heavy flywheels on the motors as it was discovered that selection of each character put a different load on the motor, resulting in a variation of the hash/noise put on the power line. In theory this could be captured and decoded. The flywheel served to smooth out the motor under varying load. Would also have required the bad guys to have access to the power line the typewriter was plugged into but paranoia knows no bounds.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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Well, this is awkward...
I think they're still going to try to manage the border aren't they, so only the fully vaccinated and those who test negative will (in theory) get through? Isn't some explanation of how that is supposed to work coming this week? Might not turn out to be a practical option.
Auckland is already effectively at level 1 as far as a significant number of it's inhabitants are concerned, and has been for a while. Dropping restrictions here despite the rising numbers of cases is a a tacit acknowledgement of that. And that's a reasonable course of action under the circumstances, since there's only so much the authorities can do if enough people choose not to comply anymore.
The only game in town now is high levels of vaccination softening the blow enough for the country to get through the next couple of months relatively unscathed. If you look over at Victoria, that's going to mean 5 to 10-ish Covid deaths every day for a significant length of time (and bear in mind if you asked anyone in the know prior to Covid who had the better health system, Victoria or NZ, pretty sure they'd have said the former).
Still worth taking reasonable precautions yourself against catching it, regardless of what the Government is saying. By Xmas we should have a better idea of how well the vaccination program has actually worked and how our system is coping – who knows, maybe they've timed it perfectly and our numbers stay comparatively low.
Moe: Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I...I can't compete with that stuff.- The Simpsons
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