Jacinda

[Berries]

An interesting 17mins that’s worth watching.

I very much doubt that.

[R650R]

There are unconfirmed reports coming out from sources in Wellington the Labours taxation spokesperson may have been rushed to hospital. Allegedly suffering from whiplash from the fastest ever failed policy emergency hit and run job reversal on themselves.

This govts lack of connection with the mood of the general public during these high cost of living crisis is staggering in its ignorance.

What’s interesting though is ACT supports the concept, why should plumbers and hairdressers pay GST on their service services but not financial services business owners?
David does go on to day though that it’s very bad timing to bring a new tax in and it’s not something they would look at doing anytime soon.

[R650R]

A simple yes or no would be fine Love....

[neels]

There are unconfirmed reports coming out from sources in Wellington the Labours taxation spokesperson may have been rushed to hospital. Allegedly suffering from whiplash from the fastest ever failed policy emergency hit and run job reversal on themselves.

This govts lack of connection with the mood of the general public during these high cost of living crisis is staggering in its ignorance.

What’s interesting though is ACT supports the concept, why should plumbers and hairdressers pay GST on their service services but not financial services business owners?
David does go on to day though that it’s very bad timing to bring a new tax in and it’s not something they would look at doing anytime soon.

I find this situation hilarious, have to completely agree with the AM show assessment that the govt is either incompetent or conniving, and a back down after only one day is seriously embarrassing.

Incompetent wouldn't be surprising, given the many unintended consequences of other legislation that any sane person could have foreseen.

Conniving equally believable, given the 'no new taxes' followed by various changes to tax rules for landlords which while socially popular, had the fortunate side effect of increased tax take for the government.

[TheDemonLord]

I find this situation hilarious, have to completely agree with the AM show assessment that the govt is either incompetent or conniving, and a back down after only one day is seriously embarrassing.

Incompetent wouldn't be surprising, given the many unintended consequences of other legislation that any sane person could have foreseen.

Conniving equally believable, given the 'no new taxes' followed by various changes to tax rules for landlords which while socially popular, had the fortunate side effect of increased tax take for the government.

[pete376403]

Every party (while campaigning) claims there will be "no new taxes" Once they get into power the reality of managing the effect of a world of outside influences on a very tiny country hit home and they are left with being creative to to bridge the shortfall. A favourite is to modify (it's always an increase) an existing tax ("it's not new, just changed").

George Bush (the first) "read my lips", and closer to home, John Key.

Under Keys national government:GST increase from 12.5% to 15%
Increased taxes on KiwiSaver
Compulsory student loan payment increase from 10% to 12%
Increased tertiary fees
The 2012 ‘Paperboy’ tax
Civil Aviation Authority fees rise
Additional fuel tax increase of 9 cents with annual CPI increases locked in for perpetuity
Road User Charges increased
New annual student loan fees introduced
Massive unnecessary ACC levy increases
Prescription fees increased by 66%
New online company filing fees imposed on businesses
Creeping expansion of the scope of Fringe Benefit Taxes - National tried to tax car parks and plain-clothes police uniforms
Lowering of Working for Families abatement threshold and increasing the abatement rate, taking money out of the pockets of families
Imposing a $900 Family Court fee

[TheDemonLord]

Every party (while campaigning) claims there will be "no new taxes" Once they get into power the reality of managing the effect of a world of outside influences on a very tiny country hit home and they are left with being creative to to bridge the shortfall. A favourite is to modify (it's always an increase) an existing tax ("it's not new, just changed").

George Bush (the first) "read my lips", and closer to home, John Key.

Under Keys national government:GST increase from 12.5% to 15%
Increased taxes on KiwiSaver
Compulsory student loan payment increase from 10% to 12%
Increased tertiary fees
The 2012 ‘Paperboy’ tax
Civil Aviation Authority fees rise
Additional fuel tax increase of 9 cents with annual CPI increases locked in for perpetuity
Road User Charges increased
New annual student loan fees introduced
Massive unnecessary ACC levy increases
Prescription fees increased by 66%
New online company filing fees imposed on businesses
Creeping expansion of the scope of Fringe Benefit Taxes - National tried to tax car parks and plain-clothes police uniforms
Lowering of Working for Families abatement threshold and increasing the abatement rate, taking money out of the pockets of families
Imposing a $900 Family Court fee

I think it's time to pull out the ol' "Fuck National Too" Flag.

[pete376403]

I think it's time to pull out the ol' "Fuck National Too" Flag.

Not often I agree with you politically but, yes, along with the "Fuck ACT" and "Fuck whatever-tamakis-rabble-are-called-this-week" flags.

[TheDemonLord]

Not often I agree with you politically but, yes, along with the "Fuck ACT" and "Fuck whatever-tamakis-rabble-are-called-this-week" flags.

I like ACT.

They aren't perfect - but David Seymour has at least read James Lindsey's works.

And whilst we are at it - Fuck the Greens too.

[husaberg]

Every party (while campaigning) claims there will be "no new taxes"

Thats a common misunderstanding what they mean is "no New Taxis" as a pledge to only ride in limos.....
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-expenses.html

what's the odds against that all those tax increases were supported by the ACT party.

[R650R]

And ACT is the only party putting their (well ours) money where there mouth is. They put out a full funded budget publicly on how they will spend....

Anyhow LIVE now on Sunday TV One.... Fenton Street Rotorua and the festering disaster of emergency housing motels. Man I knew it was bad but Jesus what a mess.



Thanks Jacinda

[F5 Dave]

I'm assuming, as I can't read what he said I can paraphrase:

Dumb cunt.

Ahh duh.

I'm shpesial.

[husaberg]

And ACT is the only party putting their (well ours) money where there mouth is. They put out a full funded budget publicly on how they will spend....

Anyhow LIVE now on Sunday TV One.... Fenton Street Rotorua and the festering disaster of emergency housing motels. Man I knew it was bad but Jesus what a mess.

Thanks Jacinda

Don't let facts get in the way there troll The motels stated with key selling off the state housing and it it just so happened his mate and big party Donor earl Hagaman owned a chain of hotels.....

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/8447...rgency-housing
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...in-earlier-key

[frogfeaturesFZR]

It started with John Key
Not a dig at National, simply a fact
It’s certainly got worse the last 5-6 years
EH ( emergency housing ) is part of my job.
To be fair, EH and MIQ kept a whole heap of motels alive over the past few years.
That said, it’s FUBAR’d
It needs a whole new approach, and dare I say it, a ministry solely to sort it
This multi ministry thing is effed.

[TheDemonLord]

Don't let facts get in the way there troll The motels stated with key selling off the state housing and it it jus tso happened his mate and party donor earl hagaman owned a chain of hotels.....

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/8447...rgency-housing
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...in-earlier-key

It started with John Key
Not a dig at National, simply a fact
It’s certainly got worse the last 5-6 years
EH ( emergency housing ) is part of my job.
To be fair, EH and MIQ kept a whole heap of motels alive over the past few years.
That said, it’s FUBAR’d
It needs a whole new approach, and dare I say it, a ministry solely to sort it
This multi ministry thing is effed.

I think it's time to pull out the ol' "Fuck National Too" Flag.

But yes, it has been getting worse.

National are bad, Stalinda is worse.