PM Chris Hipkins

[TheDemonLord]

Screw you chippy. I gave you and Robertson the benefit of the doubt. I thought in face of a looming election you would do a decent budget. But no there’s 10 billion of new inflationary spending that’s just cost me about 0.5% on my home loan update.
I can take that hit but boy I feel sorry for those not so well off. There’s pain coming for many I hope they vote accordingly….

Time, once again, being awfully vindicating.

[neels]

Time, once again, being awfully vindicating.

For fucks sake, disagreeing with everything and then occasionally being right is not vindication, it's just playing the odds. Betting black or red on the roulette wheel would give you the same success rate.

[TheDemonLord]

For fucks sake, disagreeing with everything and then occasionally being right is not vindication, it's just playing the odds. Betting black or red on the roulette wheel would give you the same success rate.

I don't disagree with everything, my position has been that Labour are a bunch of Socialists and will do all the wrong things that Socialists always do.

Then people complain and say I should give them the benefit of the doubt, then in short order they go ahead and prove me right.

[sugilite:Me]

Its just another one of your fake victory laps mate. OMG a bunch of pollies are spending wads of cash. What's your next bold prediction, tomorrow is going to be Friday?
one mob blows it on ill planned social policies, and making their mates wealthy, the other team cuts services and makes their mates very rich, all the while professing fake as fuck fiscal responsibility.
what a steller choice us voters have

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

I don't disagree with everything, my position has been that Labour are a bunch of Socialists and will do all the wrong things that Socialists always do.

Then people complain and say I should give them the benefit of the doubt, then in short order they go ahead and prove me right.

I agree with your post 100% Mr Lord, unfortunately the sheep who tend to be blue collar workers of this forum are usually left wing voters who are easily manipulated by previously attractive leaders, mainstream media, the unions and woke Bob they met at the last bike meet

They will always follow heard because that is where they feel safe.

[TheDemonLord]

Its just another one of your fake victory laps mate. OMG a bunch of pollies are spending wads of cash. What's your next bold prediction, tomorrow is going to be Friday?
one mob blows it on ill planned social policies, and making their mates wealthy, the other team cuts services and makes their mates very rich, all the while professing fake as fuck fiscal responsibility.
what a steller choice us voters have

I think the actual phrase I used was:

"A Tiger can't change it's stripes."

Specifically to Chris, not to pollies in general.

This isn't a fake victory lap - I told you that Chris H is just a continuation of Stalinda and that the 'dumping' of 'unpopular' policies wasn't a genuine change of direction but just smoke and mirrors to dupe the voters.

The budget has removed any vestiges of doubt that this is the case. And just so we are clear - here's how I called it: How do you argue against any of the unpopular policies of Labour, if you adopt the Left-Wing viewpoint on any of the issues? You cannot, therefore any dump was only a temporary set-back.

[sugilite:Me]

What an amazing rebuttal - not.
remove the "s" of my politicians, then every other word is accurate.
You essentially predicted a politician would stay a politician. Awesome prediction.

fake victory lap stands.

[TheDemonLord]

What an amazing rebuttal - not.
remove the "s" of my politicians, then every other word is accurate.
You essentially predicted a politician would stay a politician. Awesome prediction.

fake victory lap stands.

That is to completely miss the point: To be in the Labour party (as it currently stands) means to hold certain beliefs about the world. If you hold those beliefs, you have no philosophical basis to say that any of the unpopular policies are wrong. Therefore they were always going to come back.

Labour, being the bunch of Socialists that they are, think that if they just spend a little bit more of other people's money - then they'll finally get the Utopia that Saint Marx promised.

I can rag on other politicians for different reasons - but in this specific case, it's not about Politicians in general, it's about Left-wing presuppositions.

[sugilite:Me]

Ohhhhh, thank you for clearing that up, so you predicted a labour poli would remain a labour poli. Amazeballs.
"Imagine" if a word count actually added weight to a concept that can be summed up in one sentence.

[TheDemonLord]

Ohhhhh, thank you for clearing that up, so you predicted a labour poli would remain a labour poli. Amazeballs.

Well, considering everyone else was talking about how it's a new direction and it's not the same Labour etc.

I think it is Amazeballs - I called it early and I called it right.

[sugilite:Me]

And by everyone, you mean barely anyone I presume.

[R650R]

Fluff news has a savage opinion piece on chippie today. Nothing at all to do with the empty public journalism fund lol

[pritch]

Fluff news has a savage opinion piece on chippie today. Nothing at all to do with the empty public journalism fund lol

Apparently the author of that piece considers himself an expert on morals? Google him and you find this, also on Stuff.

"Grant’s first application to be admitted to the association was rejected in June on character grounds because of his historical convictions for fraud. He was jailed for 18 theft, forgery and conspiracy to defraud convictions in 1994,"

[sugilite:Me]

With credentials like his Pritch, one would think he would be running for government rather than writing about it.

[husaberg]

Apparently the author of that piece considers himself an expert on morals? Google him and you find this, also on Stuff.

"Grant’s first application to be admitted to the association was rejected in June on character grounds because of his historical convictions for fraud. He was jailed for 18 theft, forgery and conspiracy to defraud convictions in 1994,"

He was jailed for 18 theft, forgery and conspiracy to defraud convictions in 1994, for offences when he was aged between 21 and 27.
The board said the offending was clearly premeditated and involved careful planning. He had not repaid his victims.

“We are left with significant doubt about the extent of Mr Grant’s offending, his insight into it and the degree to which he has been open about it. We are therefore not satisfied that Mr Grant can confidently be regarded as a person of good character under the rule.”

i am sure he would be tough on crime.......