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    The word unprecedented has been used a lot lately and the current situation is unprecedented. Almost.

    In the early seventies the DoJ had evidence that the Governor of Maryland was corrupt. You want this contract to build a bridge? Give me 10 grand and it's yours. That type of thing. As the investigation proceeded it became evident that this had been the custom in Maryland for some time and had actually involved successive Governors. Where was the previous Governor? He was in the White House, he was Vice President Spiro T Agnew. And the investigations indicated he had taken his corrupt practices with him to the new job.

    The investigation eventually culminated in some forty corruption charges against Agnew. He said it was a politically motivated witch hunt, 'my political enemies', 'corrupt DoJ', blah blah blah. All familiar today.

    The matter became urgent. Watergate was coming to a head, it was looking as if Nixon would resign or be removed imminently which would promote Agnew to President, and he was likely headed to a jail cell instead of the Oval Office.

    I can remember hearing the item on the local radio news. Agnew had resigned and he had pleaded guilty to a single charge of tax evasion. A deal had been done, but he was gone.

    That's history, not a crystal ball, but it may be that history repeats at least partially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The word unprecedented has been used a lot lately and the current situation is unprecedented. Almost.

    In the early seventies the DoJ had evidence that the Governor of Maryland was corrupt. You want this contract to build a bridge? Give me 10 grand and it's yours. That type of thing. As the investigation proceeded it became evident that this had been the custom in Maryland for some time and had actually involved successive Governors. Where was the previous Governor? He was in the White House, he was Vice President Spiro T Agnew. And the investigations indicated he had taken his corrupt practices with him to the new job.

    The investigation eventually culminated in some forty corruption charges against Agnew. He said it was a politically motivated witch hunt, 'my political enemies', 'corrupt DoJ', blah blah blah. All familiar today.

    The matter became urgent. Watergate was coming to a head, it was looking as if Nixon would resign or be removed imminently which would promote Agnew to President, and he was likely headed to a jail cell instead of the Oval Office.

    I can remember hearing the item on the local radio news. Agnew had resigned and he had pleaded guilty to a single charge of tax evasion. A deal had been done, but he was gone.

    That's history, not a crystal ball, but it may be that history repeats at least partially.
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    i always thought he was a writer?
    Thanks for that bit of history, so Gerald ford was like the back up for of the back up.... The Prince Edward of his day.



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    You've got to remember that the Republicans then were largely law abiding. They were horrified by Watergate and it was party pressure which got Nixon out.
    They also put pressure on Agnew.

    The current crop of GOP senators and representatives are totally different. Apologists and enablers for Trump. Some even calling for armed insurrection via twitter.

    He's never ever going to accept a plea deal which would take him out of politics. He hasn't yet bled his supporters completely dry. Plenty of money to be made yet.

    This is going to run and run. The US is basically fucked.

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    That's twice now, once in New York and now in Miami, he has called the faithful to his aid and very few came. For a guy who claimed (wrongly) that his inauguration crowd was the biggest ever, that must burn. Good.

    Onward and upward, another rally, another dollar...
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    More bad news for Trump. The judge hearing the other E Jean Carroll case in New York has approved Carroll's motion to add the remarks made by Trump the day after her five million claim was successful. He had repeated the defaming remarks at his CNN 'Town hall'. And the judge also approved the addition of another ten million dollars to her claim.

    She doesn't really have to prove anything. The main question now is mainly about how much?
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    A new Lincoln Project ad. They sometimes have success in placing their ads where the intended audience of one will see them. This one will mess with his head if he sees it.

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    Judge Cannon who has been appointed to preside over Trumps trial was expected to recuse herself. People have been waiting for indications of how she would react. Interestingly she has issued an order. The order is not controversial at all. She has ordered counsel to get security clearances. They will need to be cleared to the appropriate level to handle the documents in this case.

    Most cases in the federal court system are decided by plea deals. The judge doesn't need to spend any time in court in such cases. This means that Judge Cannon's total judicial court experience amounts to fourteen days in court. That'd be OK if Trump was charged with not paying a parking fine, but 37 charges including espionage?

    We await developments with interest.
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    it's reported that Trump's legal team advised him to return the documents and seek a deal. Trump ignored the lawyers and took the advice of Tom Fitton who apparently counselled against the advice of the lawyers. Fitton who likes to wear shirts that are too small, and who despite the impression he tries to create, is not a lawyer.

    Trump should have followed Machiavelli's advice to be well advised.
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    I think he all clutching at straws if we need to worry about his lawyers wardrobe choices…

    This thread reminds me of the old saying a watched pot never boils… in this case the oven still switched off at the wall…
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I think he all clutching at straws if we need to worry about his lawyers wardrobe choices…
    If you're saying what I think you're saying, you need to work on your comprehension skills. The post clearly states Fitton is not a lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    If you're saying what I think you're saying, you need to work on your comprehension skills. The post clearly states Fitton is not a lawyer.
    I skim read all posts where it’s clear nothing new of material substance has arisen to effect Trumps path to jail…
    We should be running a Melbourne cup style sweepstake on this pick the month and year trump goes to jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    We should be running a Melbourne cup style sweepstake on this pick the month and year trump goes to jail.


    Don't say that. You'll get me all excited. As much as I'd love to see it I don't believe it will happen.

    The young Massachusetts Air Guardsman, Teixeira, who faces charges over leaking a few documents online is locked up awaiting trial.
    Intelligence Analyst, Reality Winner, who leaked a single document was locked up while awaiting trial.
    Trump is still flying around in his private jet with no restrictions on his movement while facing thirty seven charges.

    Justice is blind? Yeah right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Don't say that. You'll get me all excited. As much as I'd love to see it I don't believe it will happen.

    The young Massachusetts Air Guardsman, Teixeira, who faces charges over leaking a few documents online is locked up awaiting trial.
    Intelligence Analyst, Reality Winner, who leaked a single document was locked up while awaiting trial.
    Trump is still flying around in his private jet with no restrictions on his movement while facing thirty seven charges.

    Justice is blind? Yeah right.
    He hasn't leaked any documents that I'm aware of but he has taken a leak with the documents..
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    Following "discovery" the process by which the defence is given details of the prosecution case, Trump now knows who is giving evidence against him and basically what they will say. As you might imagine he is not handling it well.


    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ce-1234776019/


    Below: some clever artwork has been added to Trump's star in Hollywood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Following "discovery" the process by which the defence is given details of the prosecution case, Trump now knows who is giving evidence against him and basically what they will say. As you might imagine he is not handling it well.


    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ce-1234776019/


    Below: some clever artwork has been added to Trump's star in Hollywood.
    Funny .are those pizza boxs
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