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    Tdl, mate : just in the last week, you would have us belive that a bribe taking supreme court judge could not possibly be corrupt, those nice corporations would never price gouge in an inflationary market and there is no such thing as a radical right in the usa. And that's just the highlights! I have had to get the men in black involved as I have no idea what planet that you are from, but it sure as shit ain't this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Interesting choice. I'd almost rather visit Bangladesh. Similar life expectancy, both are third world shit holes. (To use a Trump turn of phrase.)
    Errr ok…good to know…thanks for sharing…

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Tdl, mate : just in the last week, you would have us belive that a bribe taking supreme court judge could not possibly be corrupt,
    Except that isnt what I said - I asked for an example of Clarence ruling against the Constitution, in favor of his Doners. Something that is still conscpicuous by its absence.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    those nice corporations would never price gouge in an inflationary market
    in an inflationary market

    So they didnt cause the issue, they found themselves in it...

    And why did they find themselves in it - why, because of Government Policy!

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    there is no such thing as a radical right in the usa.
    What is termed The Radical Right by the media today, is simply the Democrats of 10-20 years ago. Are there actual far-right groups in the US - Sure.

    Do they have any major political representation - No.
    Do they have active organizations on College Campuses - No.
    Did they burn down large parts of the country in protest - No.
    Were they able to take over and secceed a section of a major city - No.
    Do they have Media, Politicians and commentators running interference for them - No.
    Do they get preferential treatment from the Police with most of their charges dropped - No.

    The so-called Far Right is a fever dream of the Left and means: Anyone who disagrees with any of the current Marxist inspired presuppositions.

    The Actual Far right is about 3 guys in a cornfield.
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    Let's not forget the greedy companies that see the word inflation being reported and then go weeeeee and Jack their prices.
    Nailed it.....



    Prices of butter and cheese are now rising I see......that sneaky gumment at it again I reckon?????!!!!

    Oh wait on, its because we are paying world prices for what we make here and not cheaper mates rates as you would sort of assume.

    Gouge gouge gouge gouge.....tax the peasants and the meek harder and harder. Aren't they just a commodity anyway?

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    That all said - I find this whole argument academic - why is the ire not directed at the Government that caused the issue in the first place.
    Because they are not the single biggest contributor....I'm going to take you aside and have a serious chat if you keep this nonsense up.

    It's as others have said .....the big dollar boys, the ones bigger than government, the multi billion corporations that need to top up there pay cheques...aka greed and selfishness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Except that isnt what I said - I asked for an example of Clarence ruling against the Constitution, in favor of his Doners. Something that is still conscpicuous by its absence.
    You refuse to acknowledge that taking bribes makes him corrupt from the get go. Willful ignorance does not win debates mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    in an inflationary market

    So they didnt cause the issue, they found themselves in it...

    And why did they find themselves in it - why, because of Government Policy!
    And they take advantage of that. My entire point. I'm not trying to absolve the government as you are the corporations.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    What is termed The Radical Right by the media today, is simply the Democrats of 10-20 years ago.
    What a load of twaddle. The proud boys backed by Mr "stand back and stand by" were neck deep in Jan 6th. Oath keepers too. Their plans to kidnap a michigan governor were thwatted to name just a couple of far right domestic terrorist activities. The rest of your blurb was your usual red under every bed illness. Take the right wing blindfold off and open your eyes bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    You refuse to acknowledge that taking bribes makes him corrupt from the get go. Willful ignorance does not win debates mate.
    It is not Willful ignorance, I am asking you for the proof of the claim and it is absent. A single ruling, against the Constitution, in 30 years of jurisprudence. Not a high bar.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    And they take advantage of that. My entire point. I'm not trying to absolve the government as you are the corporations.
    But in a way, you are absolving the Government.

    You are blaming the corporations for the effects you felt due to Inflation, rather than the cause. And whilst some may or may not have been price gouging, there are a number legitimate business reasons to act in the manner they did.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    What a load of twaddle. The proud boys backed by Mr "stand back and stand by" were neck deep in Jan 6th. Oath keepers too. Their plans to kidnap a michigan governor were thwatted to name just a couple of far right domestic terrorist activities. The rest of your blurb was your usual red under every bed illness. Take the right wing blindfold off and open your eyes bro!
    Okay - let us compare:

    Jan 6th vs the BLM riots.
    Plans to kidnap a Governor (that was suggested by the FBI... but lets not worry about that) vs actually declaring a secession.
    Apparently it is okay to go around Campus chanting to exterminate the Jews, but only if you are wearing a Palestinian flag instead of a Swastika.

    But let me continue:

    How many Kamala or Biden supporters were assassinated for wearing the Merch of their preferred candidate.
    How many Assassination Attempts did Biden or Kamala recieve.
    How many Left-Wing commentators were banned from Twitter (before Musk) for advocating Violence against Right-Wing commentators.

    I could go on - but let me finish on this - I cite this example many times - but the Media regularly call Joe Rogan far-right... A Man who:

    - Voted for Bernie Sanders
    - Grew up in Hippy-era San Francisco
    - Believes in Universal Basic Income
    - Regularly advocates for taking Hallucinegenic substances
    - Is highly skeptical of big corporations
    - Same-sex Marriage
    - Gay Rights
    - Universal Health Care
    - Pro-Choice.

    Does that sound like the actual far right?

    What Joe does oppose (which is hilarious because he is a Bernie Bro at heart) is Wokeness - which is a series of beliefs that all trace their lineage back to Marx and Gramscii - that, and only that, is the reason he is called Far-Right. He is a Democrat of literally 10 years ago. The actual Far right does not exist in any meaningful way.
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    Y'all will be aware that government in the US consists of three co equal branches: the legislative branch (both houses of Congress), the administrative branch, and the judiciary. While you may think that is obvious, people have been elected to the Senate who did not know that. Senator Tuberville for one.

    The Senate is required to vote on all Cabinet appointments. There is a provision though that if an appointment is urgently needed while the Senate is in recess it can be passed without a vote. Trump has told the Senate he wants them to go into recess on January 20th, the day he assumes power. This would mean his entire cabinet could be passed without a vote. Almost as if he was a dictator?

    The Senate is shortly to elect a new leader but some of the candidates regard Trump's proposal with suspicion. Funny that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    It is not Willful ignorance, I am asking you for the proof of the claim and it is absent. A single ruling, against the Constitution, in 30 years of jurisprudence. Not a high bar.
    Wow, you are in full "dick" mode on this one. The man takes bribes, he is corrupt. It starts and finishes there.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    But in a way, you are absolving the Government.
    Seriously? Please let me know the degree I'm supposed to castigate the government before you will allow me the luxury to comment on gouging corporations unmolested by tdl interjections?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Okay - let us compare:

    Jan 6th vs the BLM riots.
    Hold it, stop right there. BLM is clearly a right wing organisation.
    https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-worl...publican-party
    Now before replying to this, I will gently remind you of your passionate earlier postings saying the proud boys could not be a right wing organisation because one of their leaders voted for biden

    BTW, I fully will endorse judge merchan jailing trump to the maximum allowable prison term in trumps upcoming sentencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Wow, you are in full "dick" mode on this one. The man takes bribes, he is corrupt. It starts and finishes there.
    As is your perspective, I do not consider them Bribes. Imagine there is someone you enjoy listening to their opinions (so not me...) and they offer to buy you a beer, to listen to you speak - is that a Bribe? That is the equivalent of what we are talking here for the amount of wealth these people have.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Seriously? Please let me know the degree I'm supposed to castigate the government before you will allow me the luxury to comment on gouging corporations unmolested by tdl interjections?
    Completely


    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Hold it, stop right there. BLM is clearly a right wing organisation.
    https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-worl...publican-party
    Black Lives Matter Rhode Island PAC also issued a separate statement insisting Fisher "is not and has never been affiliated with our organization."
    You, uh, sure about that...

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Now before replying to this, I will gently remind you of your passionate earlier postings saying the proud boys could not be a right wing organisation because one of their leaders voted for biden
    No, not quite right - The Alt Right Founder - Richard Spencer.

    However, there is some nuance that is needed: Richard Spencer believes all the presuppositions of the Radical Left. He believes in Racial Consciousness. The only difference is which Racial group he supports.

    He believes in all of the CRT inspired policies, because he knows that if you tell a bunch of poor working class white kids that they are evil for the crime of their skin and that they should see Race - a lot of them arent going to self-flagellate themselves, but instead come over to his cause.

    It is because of these set of shared beliefs and shared outcomes that I say he is not Right Wing, he is a Collectivist at heart - which is anathema to the individualist philosophy of the Right.

    To put it a different way: I am saying that Richard Spencer cannot be an Atheist if he worships Satan, because he accepts all the supernatural beliefs of Christianity, he is just picking Satan instead of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    BTW, I fully will endorse judge merchan jailing trump to the maximum allowable prison term in trumps upcoming sentencing.
    The banana emoji is not what I would have used - Opens the door to all manner of Banana republic jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    As is your perspective, I do not consider them Bribes. Imagine there is someone you enjoy listening to their opinions (so not me...) and they offer to buy you a beer, to listen to you speak - is that a Bribe? That is the equivalent of what we are talking here for the amount of wealth these people have.
    .
    Your honor, this cannot be considered a multi million dollar bribe because the dude is like, really really rich. Convincing

    That BLM guy is the founder, those other bitches be lying.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    The banana emoji is not what I would have used - Opens the door to all manner of Banana republic jokes.
    Oh I agree. Any country's justice system that allows a clearly quilty president to avoid criminal trials deserves to own the moniker of a banana republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Your honor, this cannot be considered a multi million dollar bribe because the dude is like, really really rich. Convincing
    That is still beside the point - show me the evidence of ruling against the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    That BLM guy is the founder, those other bitches be lying.
    Those other Bitches who were trained Marxists and then purchased houses using donations, that were former homes of notable communists, and cackling about how they enriched themselves, over Caviar and Champagne.

    Those bitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Oh I agree. Any country's justice system that allows a clearly quilty president to avoid criminal trials deserves to own the moniker of a banana republic.
    Or, a justice system that has to invent a new way of interpreting an existing law, ignoring the statute of limitations and holding the trial in the most politically one-sided state to ensure a kangaroo conviction - then yes, I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    That is still beside the point - show me the evidence of ruling against the Constitution.
    Why? He has taken multi million dollar bribes. Corruption established. If the US justice system was not a banana republic, the guy would not even be on the bench.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Those other Bitches who were trained Marxists and then purchased houses using donations, that were former homes of notable communists, and cackling about how they enriched themselves, over Caviar and Champagne.
    Sounds like capitalism to me, you should look into that? Those bitches be gaslighting you with their fake Marxism. Perhaps they turned to capitalism because they are too fat to get under your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Or, a justice system that has to invent a new way of interpreting an existing law, ignoring the statute of limitations and holding the trial in the most politically one-sided state to ensure a kangaroo conviction - then yes, I agree.
    Woah, an upgrade from banana republic to kangaroo court, this is serious. And this trump is so special he should be able to pick the state he gets tried in? Desperate stuff dude, desperate stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Your honor, this cannot be considered a multi million dollar bribe because the dude is like, really really rich. Convincing
    If someone was to pay cash for your mother's house but then let her remain living in it rent free, could you potentially be beholden to him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    If someone was to pay cash for your mother's house but then let her remain living in it rent free, could you potentially be beholden to him?
    Ahhh, but Harlan is that special rare kind of billionaire that invests millions of dollars and time into his pocket judge with no intention of a return on his investment. Sounds totally reasonable and legit

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