you posted the same reel twice. I hope its not serious too.Originally Posted by Reckless
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you posted the same reel twice. I hope its not serious too.
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Neil Hodgson has a post on Instagram showing what happened. But important to remember it happened in real time at high speed.
Marc would have been fine if the gravel had been at the same level as the track. I'm surprised this wasn't noticed and fixed before the weekend.
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Marc isn't having surgery, but will miss the next 2 races.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the box, total crisis. This is from an Italian website:
https://m.gpone.com/en/2025/10/04/mo...tion?related=1
Surely this has to end soon.
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From Oxley's latest column:
Finally, as the clock ticked down to Sunday’s race start, I got the answers I’d come looking for.
The 2025 crankcases are the same as the previous year’s, the engine mounts are the same and the engine inertia is the same. The only differences from the 2024 engine are detail internal upgrades to improve performance and durability, none of which effect machine dynamics.
So what was Bagnaia’s curse?
It’s the 2025 ride-height device, basically a hydraulic computer of mind-boggling complexity that adjusts the attitude of the motorcycle (and sometimes the attitude of the rider) and can have a fundamental effect on machine behaviour.
Dall’Igna introduced MotoGP’s game-changing ride-height devices a few years ago, using the knowhow of former Mercedes F1 chief scientist Robin Tuluie.
The idea of a ride-height device is to drop the bike’s rear end to lower overall centre of mass, which reduces wheelies, thereby allowing riders to use more throttle.
The GP25’s rear device drops the rear lower as riders accelerate, but this isn’t Bagnaia’s problem.
Ride-height devices are also useful during braking, because they can keep the rear tyre on the road, allowing riders to use the rear tyre as well as the front to shorten braking distances. This is where Bagnaia has the problem, because the device changes overall bike balance at a critical moment, so he can no longer hear the front tyre as he attacks corners,
That’s why Ducati rolled out a modified GP25, with 2024 ride-height device, during the Misano tests. Immediately Bagnaia was back to his 2024 best, so when he got to Motegi he was fast and smooth, instead of slow and snappy.
If the story had ended there, with the Italian’s awesome double Motegi victory, everything would make sense.
So what happened at Mandalika?
The stiffer heat-resistant tyre (also used at Buriram) changes everything, which is why it was such an upside-down and entertaining weekend and why the factory Ducatis struggled.
Perhaps the fact that Bagnaia is the only rider that prefers Öhlins’ shorter forks – his technique doesn’t suit the longer-stroke version – doesn’t help.
Maybe both these factors combined to rob him of his Motegi magic? Maybe, but crashing out is one thing, crashing out of last place is something altogether different, so they surely can’t explain the worst performance of his career.
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Very Interesting cheers for that
On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!
'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '
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Very interesting article, not least because Ducati wanted to talk to Mat.
Regarding the tyres, Pecco won at Mandalika in 2023 and was 3rd last year. Also, according to Motomatters, the soft tyre does not have the heat resistant construction, so qualifying should have been OK, which it wasn't.
The medium might have been a factor, but unlikely to be why he was dead last. No doubt, there will be another instalment at PI.
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It is a bit of a nightmare watching Pecco struggle as he has always come across as the nicest guy in the paddock.
I am wondering if he is a 10/10 rider but cant assess the bike like MM can.
Not sure if anyone on the grid can either tell the engineers what he needs or rides around an issue like MM.
Pecco's bike seems unmanageable, wins a meeting, then last, then a crash, bloody heck.
It is hard to watch the Pecco saga, if Ducati dump him it will be a bad look on the whole situation.
On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!
'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '
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I just cant understand it. But its real. At Mandalika his bike was shaking like it was in Austria.Yet in theory it was the same bike as Motegi. Does a rear tyre treatment do that? Similar tyre to Austria though. How can you go from absolutely dominant to last by a mile?
Ducati have to come clean on this bike type question even if its just to let Pecco actually know what he has got. I cant beleive they are being so stubborn about it.
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Rmember it was similar at Ktm with Jack Millers shake problem, it took a slomo on a vid to convince the engineers it was that bad and it was bloody terrible.
I Couldnt believe what I saw when I saw it. Maybe the vid guys need to zone in on Peccos shake to highlight the issue.
Bloody sad when you have joe bloggs the video man Assessing MotoGP bikes LMAO
On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!
'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '
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I think that the Ducati video man already has such videosRmember it was similar at Ktm with Jack Millers shake problem, it took a slomo on a vid to convince the engineers it was that bad and it was bloody terrible.
I Couldnt believe what I saw when I saw it. Maybe the vid guys need to zone in on Peccos shake to highlight the issue.
Bloody sad when you have joe bloggs the video man Assessing MotoGP bikes LMAO
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I tell you it's like Lorenzo. His tank decals are not quite symmetrical.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
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hmmm that was about a season and a half wasnt it?
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The GP25 is effectively a GP24 with mods like a different rear lowering device.
If it was just Pecco, then you'd think it was something specific to his riding style. But Digia has problems too - some tracks he goes really well but others he's at the back of the field.
Is Ducati over reliant on their AI data analysis? You'd think if the bike shaking is obvious from the trackside that there would be something in the terabytes of data they collect.
They must be so pleased they signed Marc, otherwise the world champion this year would probably be an independent again.
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They seem to really care, but do you think it makes a difference to brand pride equating to sales if a Ducati wins, what fan cares if they ride for what team? Sheesh.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
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But when they got it right, Bam he was there. They said it was tank shape. But we know. . . .
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