Bike theft - What do you do to stop it?

[James Deuce]

You can get alarms for cars that will send a txt to your cellphone if it is activated. Surely you can get one for a bike aswell, then you can charge out to wherever your machine is parked and start throwing furiously your pumpkins around.

If you're within 5 metres of your bike/car I can see how this would be good.

[sAsLEX]

And such a clean and tidy bike it was......

Hence my unclean and rough bike that lasted 3 years of uni instead of 1.....

[vifferman]

What do people do for security if they are leaving their bikes for any length of time in a public place?

At home it lives in an alarmed gargre, with sensors on both doors, and a PIR in the corner. Before I changed jobs it used to live in a gargre-within-a-gargre, protected by a security door and swipecard, but at the current job it just parks outside the door in the carpark.
In the weather.

If I leave it for long in public, I just fit a disklock.
Must get me some more security...

[Chrislost]

Baby blade - Hey - good point! Hadn't thought of that. I'll check out the bike alarms over here. One of the good things about having 10 trillion bikes wherever you go in Qld is that the market for add ons is quite competitive.

Bling to you for being brainy.

Thanks, tlman, just looked at that link. I'd be worried that if it shat itself in a random location I'd be stuck . . .

wouldnt shit itsself in a random location, however some of them are a bit dogey if kept under metal roofs...

[Griff]

If I leave my bike out in public, I usually lock a shitty canvas cover over it, so that it doesn't look as appealing as the shiny ones next to it.
Then tell it to "Stay!"

[Indiana_Jones]

Put the fuel switch to "off" if they're dumb kids etc, they won't figure it out lol

-Indy

[Bruiser]

Originally Posted by TLMAN
You can get alarms for cars that will send a txt to your cellphone if it is activated. Surely you can get one for a bike aswell, then you can charge out to wherever your machine is parked and start throwing furiously your pumpkins around.

If you're within 5 metres of your bike/car I can see how this would be good.

Not true Jim. With my snitch I get a text sent to my phone (and my partner's) if my harley is moved one inch. All I need to do is text the bike and it instantly reports current position (number and street address or full gps co-ordinates).

Or I can go online and follow the bike on a moving map in real time while reporting a "crime in progress" to the constabulary who respond significantly quicker in such circumstances. This technology recently saved a local appliance retailer about $40k as the cops put up the Eagle and 6 cars surrounded the unsuspecting theives who'd stolen a truck full of goodies.

Of course I could simply call a few mates and have them assemble at the address currently being reported by the Snitch, suitably armed with baseball bats (for protection only, of course!).

[James Deuce]

Not true Jim. With my snitch I get a text sent to my phone (and my partner's) if my harley is moved one inch. All I need to do is text the bike and it instantly reports current position (number and street address or full gps co-ordinates).

Or I can go online and follow the bike on a moving map in real time while reporting a "crime in progress" to the constabulary who respond significantly quicker in such circumstances. This technology recently saved a local appliance retailer about $40k as the cops put up the Eagle and 6 cars surrounded the unsuspecting theives who'd stolen a truck full of goodies.

Of course I could simply call a few mates and have them assemble at the address currently being reported by the Snitch, suitably armed with baseball bats (for protection only, of course!).

Firstly GPS in NZ is more than a little inaccurate. We have no ordanace surveys.

Secondly, no stolen HD is left complete, ever.

Thirdly, you can assemble as many people as you want, a physical crime against an admitted thief, is still a violent crime against someone else's person and therefore viewed more seriously than the original crime of theft.

I don't condone theft, but I see little point thrashing about worrying about it, or threatening physical violence for which the repurcussions are far greater than a mere property crime.

[Morcs]

Firstly GPS in NZ is more than a little inaccurate. We have no ordanace surveys.

Secondly, no stolen HD is left complete, ever.

Thirdly, you can assemble as many people as you want, a physical crime against an admitted thief, is still a violent crime against someone else's person and therefore viewed more seriously than the original crime of theft.

I don't condone theft, but I see little point thrashing about worrying about it, or threatening physical violence for which the repurcussions are far greater than a mere property crime.

But thats exactly why the little cunts do it - as they know that no-one can touch them without facing more severe consequences...

Still, if I caught a theif I would beat him to within an inch of his life, the last inch of which he will lose if he opens his mouth.

When people are scared of the consequences of stealing, you dont steal, simple as that. (unless they are realllly fucking stupid)\

I had this conversation with the head of security of our mall this morning,as we dad a $500 jacket run out of our store this week, places like singapore for example you just dont get this bullshit.

In the philipinnes also, if you catch a burglar inside your house, you have every right to shoot him and chop him up for dog food.

The law should be changed that you can protect or use reasonable forces regarding your own property.

[Bruiser]

Firstly GPS in NZ is more than a little inaccurate. We have no ordanace surveys.

Wrong again Jim. The Snitch reports the exact address, down to the flat/unit# and house#, street name, suburb, town/city.

Any time you want a demo, say the word!

Secondly, no stolen HD is left complete, ever.

Care to retract that statement? Because once again you're talking bullshit!

Thirdly, you can assemble as many people as you want, a physical crime against an admitted thief, is still a violent crime against someone else's person and therefore viewed more seriously than the original crime of theft.

Who said anything about violent crime? Retrieving stolen property is quite within an owners rights. Using reasonable force to protect ones' property and person is also encapsulated in our laws.

I don't condone theft, but I see little point thrashing about worrying about it, or threatening physical violence for which the repurcussions are far greater than a mere property crime.

Nobody is thrashing, except perhaps your attempts to protect the "rights" of these thieving pricks.

As for your quaint description of the theft of a prized bike that may have cost the victim upwards of $60k or more as "a mere property crime", I think this pretty much sums your position up perfectly!

I assume you have never suffered this kind of loss - your bleeding-heart liberal, left-wing attitude being what it is.

[sAsLEX]

When people are scared of the consequences of stealing, you dont steal, simple as that. (unless they are realllly fucking stupid)\



The law should be changed that you can protect or use reasonable forces regarding your own property.

Allot of the Arab state you would never see this happen.

One of the guys on course was on shore leave and they were sitting outside the equivalent of a dairy and a guy pulls up in a Porsche convertible jumps out leaves his phone and laptop on the passenger seat the door open the keys in and the car running.

When you get caught stealing over there they ask you a simple question. Left or right? Second time they dont bother.

[rok-the-boat]

My bike's 15 years old, not worth much, runs well as it is looked after, and has two padlocks. Someone did nick a mirror last year ...

Bikes I park near often have one, or no padlocks, so whose will the thief go after I wonder?

[Street Gerbil]

I park my bike right under the security camera :-)

[Dadpole]

Who said anything about violent crime? Retrieving stolen property is quite within an owners rights. Using reasonable force to protect ones' property and person is also encapsulated in our laws.

Retrieving stolen property is quite within an owners rights. - You may want to consult your local constabulary about that.

Using reasonable force to protect ones' property and person is also encapsulated in our laws. - Including using reasonable force against people bursting in claiming to be recovering stolen goods?

[James Deuce]

Wrong again Jim. The Snitch reports the exact address, down to the flat/unit# and house#, street name, suburb, town/city.

Any time you want a demo, say the word!



Care to retract that statement? Because once again you're talking bullshit!



Who said anything about violent crime? Retrieving stolen property is quite within an owners rights. Using reasonable force to protect ones' property and person is also encapsulated in our laws.



Nobody is thrashing, except perhaps your attempts to protect the "rights" of these thieving pricks.

As for your quaint description of the theft of a prized bike that may have cost the victim upwards of $60k or more as "a mere property crime", I think this pretty much sums your position up perfectly!

I assume you have never suffered this kind of loss - your bleeding-heart liberal, left-wing attitude being what it is.

In some cities of NZ maps are accurate. Some, not all. If the took the HD out of a major centre you'd be lucky to see it again, even with GPS. Most European States and big chunks of Western Russia, SE Asia, and even big chunks of Australia have had ordnance surveys done by their own and other people's governments for the purpose of placing artillery accurately. The UK is mapped to the last inch for this purpose and these maps make an excellent basis for GPS maps. NZ has never had ordnance surveys done and out of the main centres, GPS can be 200m off. That will give 9 or 10 houses to terrorise.

I've been burgled 3 times. There's nothing you can do protect yourself or your property. I broke the arm of an intruder attempting a 4th burglary. I was lucky that the attempted burglary was investigated by an older Sergeant who never made any mention of the condition of the perp they recovered. They would have been well within the law to charge me with assault with a deadly weapon (a 10KG Pearl Cymbal stand) and GBH. He suggested we move, and that if he had to investigate any more broken people he wouldn't turn a blind eye. There's no bravado behind this either. I was shitting myself.

All up we lost something like $30k worth of stuff. They were cleaning out our stuff and then waiting for insurance to pay out to come and get the replacements. They were also after my Wife's nursing medal, because that and an attitude was all you needed to get Class A drugs from a Hospital pharmacy. They'd been following her home from work.

I don't see how I have a liberal attitude. The Police simply don't have the resources to chase up "minor" property crime.

There's no need to argue a point THAT aggressively thanks.