1)get over itOriginally Posted by SPman
2)kick the fucker out
3) kick the rest out too
yes Sir!
1)get over it
2)kick the fucker out
3) kick the rest out too
yes Sir!
+2
both my personalitys agree!
Forum whore
OK - as Helen Clark tries to explain
"It's not a court it's a review of a security risk certificate. Obviously it involves the use of classified information and that is properly done outside what would be the procedures of a court," said the PM.There's just one problem: it's not true. The current "open" hearings do not involve any classified information at all. If they did, Zaoui and his lawyers would not be allowed to attend. Instead, the SIS and the government are hiding behind secrecy, and using it to prevent any independent assessment of the evidence or the fairness of the process. And in a society which supposedly respects human rights, that is simply unacceptable.
The whole situation is a Kafka-esque parody that is chilling in it's implications of what the NZ gov believes it can do, regardless of laws and basic human rights.
If the concept of a "hearing", held in secret, with the defendant not being allowed to know what the charge is, or what the evidence is and unable to defend himself seems like a good idea, then the Gulags, Gitmos and all the other oppressive instruments of control being used around the world must be acceptable to the populace and, if that is the case, NZ is not the place it once was or is anything like, most reasonable people would expect.
Given the steady erosion of the Justice system as well, then, it's hardly surprising!
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Forum whore
Family court.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Moped rider
Too bloody right. I was dragged through that as a kid, and so was my sister after that. If your a guy and going to the family court, your the enemy
Off the wagon
And people wonder why I'm bitter!
I spose you have to be from a pacific Island and need dialisis/oxygen/taxpayer funded medical care to be welcomed here.
If what A.Z. has been through doesnt give him refugee status then wtf does?
is currently sulking in the Sin Bin
A REAL passport for a start!
Forum whore
Far from being illegal, such actions by refugees have been legal under international law for nearly half a century. For good reason. A refugee whose departure from their country of origin is usually a flight, is rarely in a position to comply with the requirements for legal entry [ie passport and visa] into the country of refuge.
Obviously, the right to claim asylum does not deliver an automatic right of entry. In judging each case on its merits though, the courts have underlined that the use of false documentation should not penalise genuine refugees, which Zaoui has been declared to be by the New Zealand authorities. Escape from persecution has long been characterised by subterfuge and false passports, the senior British justice Simon Brown wrote in the Uxbridge case in 2001 : Self evidently, the UN provides immunity for genuine refugees whose quest for asylum reasonably involves them breaching the law. Dictators, after all, are not renowned for issuing travel visas to political opponents, and waving them goodbye at the airport.
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Forum whore
New Zealand has now issued a security certificate against Zaoui, severely limiting the few travel options he had. Malaysia was already unsafe which is why he left in the first place because the Algerian junta was lobbying them for Zaouis expulsion, back into their tender mercies.
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Forum whore
OK - not a secret trial, just a review of his status, held in secret, with "evidence" provided by the SIS which isn't being made available to the accused (for he is being accused), with no right of rebuttal. A trial in all but name! And he is held in NZ - he is on the equivalent of severely restricted parole.
Even worse are the 4 people held in prison without charge,who are refusing to sign the travel documents that would deport them back to their "own countries" and certain death - although the government have been assured that, no, of course they won't be killed if they are returned, despite all the evidence to the contrary!
People and governments make me sick!
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
W.A.N.K hardcore
Yeah I suppose being part of an extremist Islamic group that assassinated the
Algerian president would make you bit of a refugee wouldn't it.
Wake up dude. There are baddies in the world and they want in here and will massage the system to do so. Will NZ suffer if he's given the boot? Nah didn't think so. Will NZ suffer if he stays? Maybe, even probably.
Superdukes. Serving up shame to sportsbikes since ages ago.
Ta
Yep, fuck him. The guy was originally held in custody as a security risk, and should the government not been able to hold him any longer on those grounds, (which was costing the tax payer a fuckin fortune), and they still had doubts, kick the prick out!
Why is it our problem the guy cant go back where he came from?
I'd give him the boot just for his book of poetry, heard one of them on Campbell live, it was shit!
Subject some other bleeding heart country to it I say.
Fuck the PC bullshit, look out for number one.
I'd also like to say again, that if this post has offended anyone, eat my excriment and get buggered.
Forum whore
People who get on a soapbox over issues like this make me sick.
unless you can prove it.
In most if not all of the democratic in the world you would. It's part of the UN charter on asylum .
You think it's bad here - you should take a look at the UK, there are literally tens of thousands of asylum seekers there. Most of whom either end up in govt funded homes on the welfare, or in detention centers. All of then entitled to legal aid.
And don't start me on the freaking eastern European parasites. Grrrr.
This weeks international insult is in Malayalam:
Thavalayolee
You Frog Fucker
W.A.N.K hardcore
Poetry too? Well fuck me all to hell.
I'm a terrorist
On a French hit list
Now I live in the land of bliss
And I'm taking the piss
Now I should get the gist
And fuck off back to where I came from.
Superdukes. Serving up shame to sportsbikes since ages ago.
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