Nightmares

**Panther** · 23rd July 2007, 00:59

I recommend a dream book. A written account.

**howdamnhard** · 23rd July 2007, 01:02

Your dreams/nightmares are often an outworking by your subconscious of problems/events occuring during during your day to day life.Whats changed ,are there any new stressors in your life?See if you can identify and deal with them.Get help/support if you can't sort them out by yourself(no shame in asking for/getting help).
Also make sure you are comfortable before going to bed,eat at least 3 hours and drink 2 hrs before (otherwise your stomach will still be trying to digest food and you will probably wake up in the middle of the night needing a pitstop).Being to hot or cold cause bad sleep.Use an oil heater(silent , just make sure you have a smoke alarm to for peace of mind) in winter to keep the temperature even.About placebos if it makes you happy and works,who cares use it.
I've used sleeping tablets before,they knock you out for 4 hrs and then your awake again.Not very good quality sleep.
Goodluck I hope some of this helps,I'm no expert.

Originally Posted by Curious_AJ

I've been having the weirdest nightmares lately... but sometimes they couldnt even be called nightmares exactly, but they're so disturbing that they make me wake up with shock, or wake up in the morning not feeling at all rested...

These dreams are the kind that haunt you way after and you don't want to sleep again for fear of having them... they reach deep into your soul and lodge themselves there... they're the kind that make you cringe whenever anything reminds you of them...

Nothing I've done seems to help, and i've ended up getting to sleep REALLy late (or early however you look at it)... I don't know what to do.. i think its starting to affect me in reality... my moods tend to be VERY tempramental (cant spell, too tired) its like they're going up and down with every minute ticking by.. and sometimes its just nothing but blank...

That's why I'm awake now... fear of my subconscious...

**howdamnhard** · 23rd July 2007, 01:13

Oh yes and exercise is good for you to just do'nt do it too close to bed time.Along hot bath can also be relaxing and beneficial.

**SARGE** · 23rd July 2007, 06:27

Originally Posted by Deviant Esq

Herbs are entirely different and unrelated to Homeopathy. We all know that plants can do some pretty powerful things to the human body and mind (Cannibis, Opium anybody?).

hops, barley..

Originally Posted by Deviant Esq

There's no point in even arguing with this. If you're going to decry a source of information as potentially false because "someone wrote it", then that throws doubt upon anything written because it's opinion. No, I never gave you any impression that it was biassed or unbiassed, but if you read the passage carefully, it is without bias or opinion on the part of the writer, sources are quoted in what they think of it, not the writer.

but.. its on the interdweeb.. it MUST be true

**Dilligaf** · 23rd July 2007, 10:15

Originally Posted by SARGE

but.. its on the interdweeb.. it MUST be true

Hahaha SO true.

Listen, Wiki is good for learning new slang, but serious matters? Come on! It's a peer sourced website - anyone can be a contributor to that. Think that most internet users are qualified to write an encyclopaedia??

**Hitcher** · 23rd July 2007, 13:10

Originally Posted by 007XX

there is an homeopathic product called " Rescue Remedy sleep" I have found to be very effective, available in most health shops, and doesn't even cost $30...give it a go, but make sure to take it religiously, as it won't make a change straight away. It builds up in you system over a couple of days

Homoeopathic remedies taken religiously? And $30 is a lot to pay for a few ml of distilled water.

**007XX** · 23rd July 2007, 13:15

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Homoeopathic remedies taken religiously? And $30 is a lot to pay for a few ml of distilled water.

You been spending time with Deviant Esq, or are you just not reading the whole thread, Dear??

this argument was "heatedly" carried out in earlier posts...

**Hitcher** · 23rd July 2007, 13:28

Originally Posted by 007XX

You been spending time with Deviant Esq, or are you just not reading the whole thread, Dear??

this argument was "heatedly" carried out in earlier posts...

It's always nice to see somebody interested in the Dark Art of Sarcasm. C-.

I don't recall reading any discussion of the "merits" of homoeopathic remedies in this thread, heated or otherwise.

**007XX** · 23rd July 2007, 15:44

Originally Posted by Deviant Esq

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Homeopathy

... Don't get me started. Every single remedy is effectively diluted water, a little salt, and other odds and ends to make it taste and look different. Placebo only! You'd be better to be reliably informed that a glass of water before bed each night would work wonders, it would save you a lot of money otherwise spent on placebo only remedies.

Originally Posted by 007XX

Wooooowww...Easy little Horsey!

As much as everyone is entitled to an opinion (and I'll grant you yours very gladly), I'd have to disagree with you on this one....simply based on personnal experience, and maybe just a little education on the subject.

I'm afraid that I am of the stance that modern technology has placed us in a vicious "fantastic pills" circle, where a lot of people don't think they can survive without taking meds for as benign an ailment as a little cough...

HTFU is what I say and let's go back to basics...Countless generations of supposedly "less advanced" civilisations such as the aborigenes, or the tribes of Central America are still using plants for their wellbeing, and scientists are developping new lifesaving medications from their knowledge...

Placebo you say, I very respectfully disagree...But eh, it's a free country....

Originally Posted by Hitcher

It's always nice to see somebody interested in the Dark Art of Sarcasm. C-.

I don't recall reading any discussion of the "merits" of homoeopathic remedies in this thread, heated or otherwise.

I definitely agree with the fact that sarcasm is an art...

as dark as it may be...

As far as heated debate, we kind of stopped out of respect for the thread and for the Mods and everyone else, but trust me that discussion got argued at length later on and will keep going I think... Deviant Esq and amicably enough do not see eye to eye on this one...

All in good fun though...

**vifferman** · 23rd July 2007, 16:24

Are you taking anything for depression, AJ?

One of the things that has a marked effect on your sleep patterns and dreaming is the serotonin levels in your brain. Some of the antidepressants I've been on made it harder for me to get to sleep, and some made it easier, especially if I took them at the appropriate time.
Some of the antidepressants made me have really vivid dreams, and because I remembered them, they made me feel like I was going mad, as I'd have all these 'memories' of weird shit during the day. I knew they weren't real, yet because they were more like memories of actual experiences, they affected my emotions the way real memories would. It got so I dreaded going to bed, and stayed up as late as I could. And of course, poor quality/quantity sleep made me feel bad anyway, so it was somewhat of a vicious circle.

HolyPharkinCrap!

(excuse me...)
I googled "serotonin REM sleep" to find some useful stuff to chuck at you (so you wouldn't think I was an arse of dumbness) and turned up this:
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/pinealstory.htm

I'm...

I'll have to do some more reading when I've recovered, and get back to you....