Physical violence against women

**Macktheknife** · 26th July 2007, 17:34

I have had a policy for a while now, any person who jokingly slaps, pushes, etc no problem. If you attack me with intent to do harm, no matter what size or gender you may be, I will defend myself to the best of my abilities. I do not care what starts it, if the intent is to do harm or injury to me or those for whom I care, I will act accordingly.

**canarlee** · 26th July 2007, 17:46

did the guy in question actually mean for the girl to land on her head or was it just to get her out of his house and that was not part of the deal?

remember, alchohol makes you stronger than what you would normally be especially if you are angry!

and before anyone starts i am not defending what happened, just putting another perspective on it.

**inlinefour** · 26th July 2007, 17:47

Originally Posted by Sniper

Its more than bad form, its cowardice.

I reckon its just plain pathetic. I've had a beating from a woman before in the past and as soon as it started I blocked the punches and kicks after the first few got through. I just leave, or if its my place I have told the female that she is tresspassing and I will call the cops if they do not leave immediately. Never had a problem with them again. There is standing up for oneself in defence, but if you hit back at a woman your a piece of shit, IMO. Thats about the size of it, no excuse, in my opinion...

**sinned** · 26th July 2007, 19:18

Originally Posted by Panther

hear no evil see no evil type no evil........sorry folks

Your edit destroyed whatever this thread was about. I am now really interested

**Mom** · 26th July 2007, 21:42

I admit to being a bit of an old hippy really. Peace and love and all those good feelings.

However, I am a bit of a fiesty little thing if provoked. You hurt me or mine and I will retaliate. Cant stand this whole "friendly play fighting thing" I see about the place. It is too easy to blur the line of what is ok, specially if there is a few ales under the belt.

Peace and Love

oh and Joy too!

**Cibby** · 27th July 2007, 10:26

it is a tough one because so much of it so governed by societies historic laws and traditions..

I know that there is a huge rise in violence by females towards their partners and the guys are in a bind because the female is usually seen as the victim regardless of the stunning winding hurtful verbal abuse she has been dishing out for the last hour until the guy finally snaps...

Every situation is very different, in saying that I had a client once who had an assult conviciton, when i asked him what happened, he told me he had worked in on his finace fucking his best mate, she punched him for walking in on them and he punched her back, fair enough i thought.

I think people automatically jump to the conclusion that because a guy is stronger (usually) that the female is the victim but these days, i think a significantly more nutrel position is required and support required for either sex.

i beat postie up all the time.. but he likes it

**ManDownUnder** · 27th July 2007, 10:33

Originally Posted by Cibby

it is a tough one because so much of it so governed by societies historic laws and traditions..

I know that there is a huge rise in violence by females towards their partners and the guys are in a bind because the female is usually seen as the victim regardless of the stunning winding hurtful verbal abuse she has been dishing out for the last hour until the guy finally snaps...

Yeah... I agree with that 100%. If the (verbal/emotional) abuse is that bad then walk away. I was exactly there, one time only and I lashed out. Scared the shit out of both of us and I simply had to walk away... She had no excuses for what she did... but more importantly from my point of view - neither did I.

That is NOT who I wanted to be, and I decided there and then it is not who I would be.

**007XX** · 27th July 2007, 10:58

I agree with both MDU and Cibby...

Cutting through the PC BS, as a woman, I wouldn't expect to get away with bitch slapping a guy, unless he'd make a crass advance at my arse or suchlike, which was never sollicited in the first place...

Self defence is a very tough grey area nowadays...I have unfortunately been on the receiving end of unjustified physical violence, and it really scars you for a long time. There is nothing worse than feeling so outpowered physically...

But then again, I have met women who took advantage of them being of "the fairer sex" and thought it was therefor safe to smack a guy around...most uncool in my books!

Either way, violence is a reality for both sides and that is extremely sad.

**Colapop** · 27th July 2007, 11:06

I'm not a small man. I have the size strength and capablility to really hurt someone. It has happened before but never to a woman. It's not something I'm proud of and not something to brag about. If there is a confrontation then I will protect myself or those that are in need of protection. To 'lose' it though, is an evil that's truly terrifying. The strongest men I know are the ones who choose to walk away.

**ManDownUnder** · 27th July 2007, 11:10

One thing that has stood me in good stead is the ability to put someone swiftly but reasonably damage free onto their arse. Stand facing them, put your nearest leg behind their nearest leg, and push on their farthest shoulder.

Unless they know what they're doing they'll be on their bum in 1/2 second flat, and you're walking away.

Only ever used it twice (on women both times ironically) but it's a nice to have. Assault with intent would be hard to prove too. They land on their bum at low velocity

**Storm** · 27th July 2007, 16:05

Nice constructive advice MDU

Will file it away for future incidents

**Ocean1** · 27th July 2007, 17:01

Originally Posted by 007XX

I agree with both MDU and Cibby...

Cutting through the PC BS, as a woman, I wouldn't expect to get away with bitch slapping a guy, unless he'd make a crass advance at my arse or suchlike, which was never sollicited in the first place...

Is that the impression of a fence I see on your arse?

Speaking of which: So the avitar is not in fact a flagrant solicitation?

Oh, and a more genteel sophistocated advance might work OK?

FWIW I've never been provoked so far by a woman that I've lost control to the point that I've raised my hand in anger. Suppose it's possible, I ain't no saint but I'd like to think by that stage I'd be long gone.

Have done the other thing though (prevented it), ridiculously contrived and embarrassing as it felt at the time. And at the cost of semi-minor damage on at least one occasion.

**Fatjim** · 27th July 2007, 18:38

Originally Posted by inlinefour

I reckon its just plain pathetic. I've had a beating from a woman before in the past and as soon as it started I blocked the punches and kicks after the first few got through. I just leave, or if its my place I have told the female that she is tresspassing and I will call the cops if they do not leave immediately. Never had a problem with them again. There is standing up for oneself in defence, but if you hit back at a woman your a piece of shit, IMO. Thats about the size of it, no excuse, in my opinion...

Mate, If I saw a chick hitting someone in a wheel chair, I'd struggle not to slap her.