Depression...

[ManDownUnder]

Shit happens, and you got to accept it and move on. It's the moving on part which is the hardest.

Im going to move on no matter how hard it is going to get.

Moving on is good, but only after dealing with it. You don't deal with it - it will follow you... lay dormant for years maybe... but it will follow you.

[Winston001]

Moving on is good, but only after dealing with it. You don't deal with it - it will follow you... lay dormant for years maybe... but it will follow you.

I agree but I've never really understood what moving on means? If it is to shut your mind to something which has happened, that is denial and doesn't allow you to gain perspective. The pain can still jump out at any time.

If instead it is acceptance, then that is more healthy. I think I'm just repeating what you said.

How does a person move on?

[ManDownUnder]

I agree but I've never really understood what moving on means? If it is to shut your mind to something which has happened, that is denial and doesn't allow you to gain perspective. The pain can still jump out at any time.

If instead it is acceptance, then that is more healthy. I think I'm just repeating what you said.

How does a person move on?

From my point of view, and my one (SIGNIFICANT) personal experience... it's a case of:

• Identifying the big issues in my life
• Understanding them
• Walking with pain for long enough to gain the understanding of what caused it
• With the understanding come a perspective on what it's doing to me, and those around me (it took a lot of talk talk talk to those around me to do this... assumptions I made were WAY off base)

From there you have understanding... when you have that you will get ... (loathe to say it) "inner peace". A sense of normalcy, and a wisdom that simply can not be expressed. But it's there... it's that wisdom you sometimes come across in people that's just so tangible, you wish you had it and yet you have no idea how you would even start to build it.

Nelson Mandela is a man I would love to have at my table for exactly that wisdom. Borne of pain - pure and simple.

Anyway - I'm raving. For me - that was/is the process. It never ends, and that's a good thing. Personal growth shouldn't end.

[Kittyhawk]

Moving on is good, but only after dealing with it. You don't deal with it - it will follow you... lay dormant for years maybe... but it will follow you.

Regardless of past events your history will always follow you. There is no escaping it. To create your past you have to take on challenges and move forward in life. Nothing is easy.

[Curious_AJ]

very very true right there kittyhawk...

[Disco Dan]

Moving on is good, but only after dealing with it. You don't deal with it - it will follow you... lay dormant for years maybe... but it will follow you.

but what if your clutch is broke and you cant engage first gear?

[westie]

but what if your clutch is broke and you cant engage first gear?

Then get something reliable like a honda!

[Curious_AJ]

if we're talking in car metaphores here... i'd be a Ford.... "f***ed on race day"

[Ocean1]

Here's summat weird... one of the ways I can recognise when my brain chemistry's farked (apart from weird word association, but that might just be 'normal' for me) is when I get 'visual dyslexia', and start misreading words. The first time I look, the word's spelled wrong (letters swap places), and when I do a double-take, it comes back to normal.

Dude "wrong" is a socially imposed function of the right of the majority to impose their warped idea of fact on the rest of us. It's at least as likely that you are in posession of the one and only truth.

A sense of normalcy, and a wisdom that simply can not be expressed. But it's there... it's that wisdom you sometimes come across in people that's just so tangible, you wish you had it and yet you have no idea how you would even start to build it.

The Celts seem to have an awareness of this effect bred into them. That and ample opportunity to prove it. Old Irish blessing: May no new thing arise"

[ManDownUnder]

but what if your clutch is broke and you cant engage first gear?

Ironically that's exactly my point... (not sure if you meant to do it or not but...) to resp0ond using your example... it is obviously more sensible to go to reasonable lengths to fix the clutch as starting off for the rest fo your life will be easier.

Sure you could get a running start every time and suffer the incovenience for the rest of forever... but isn't this the less attractive option?

[Kittyhawk]

Being in the wrong state of mind is a challenge of its own.

Damn challenges in life.

[Disco Dan]

Ironically that's exactly my point... (not sure if you meant to do it or not but...) to resp0ond using your example... it is obviously more sensible to go to reasonable lengths to fix the clutch as starting off for the rest fo your life will be easier.

Sure you could get a running start every time and suffer the incovenience for the rest of forever... but isn't this the less attractive option?

ahhh I see... I just so happend to be on a hill yesterday... no need to fix my clutch just yet....

[Winston001]

ahhh I see... I just so happend to be on a hill yesterday... no need to fix my clutch just yet....

LOL......unfortunately the metaphor is all too accurate. Depression is like going down a steep hill in the dark and not seeing the road bottom out and start to rise. It's there, but you can't see it and stall at the bottom.

Time to call a mechanic........

[deanohit]

what if your clutch is broke and you cant engage first gear?

Ha, I started in top gear today and now my I'm feeling a like a wreck on the side of the road. Been really up an down for a few monthes now an the bike hasnt got a good grip on the hill anymore. Really its slipping in the mud back down the slippery slope to the dark valleys.
Now sitting here with my mind going in top gear with all sorts of bad thoughts an just wishing I could drink it all away again . Decided I need a break earlier, so booked a flight back down south for next month to just have some time out with family after recent troubles. Really things should be going great as I've made some big changes in my life and for awhile it was great.

Maybe the clutch just needs a little crc to free it up a bit.

[babyB]

.....Time to call a mechanic........

yer but theyre closed when ya need them