Stoner urges FIM to hold firm on tyre rules

[Robert Taylor]

Moto GP is just a big sack of whining posers anyhow.
"My tyres suck, that pass was illegal, save the planet, children are the future...."

I think that is a very sad thing to say, especially if one is tucked up in an armchair in front of the fire watching MotoGP on a bleak winters night. To even get a ride in MotoGP you have to have enormous talent that bypasses most of us.

Yes it is true that there are ''whining posers'', Max Biaggi for one, but they are extremely fast whining posers.

I could name a couple of whining ( and fast ) posers on the NZ road racing scene as well. With egos a mile wide and a dark side of playing mind games with people. But the number of great, friendly people outnumbers them immensely.

Cold hard fact but riders have a shelf life, just like the latest technical advance. When the riders are no longer fast or committed they are ''retired''. That is how factory / factory assisted teams work. A ''component'' that can be replaced.

And an enormous amount of respect has to go to the engineers who work enormous hours behind the scenes coming up with new advances in technology. There is way way more complexity to this sport than most armchair commentators will realise.

[cowpoos]

Two years ago the reverse was true - if you had Bridgestones you had the losers tyre. Bridgestones upped their game and now have the better tyre. No need to change the rules. The tyre makers are in the race as well.

yep...shoes on the other foot now and rossi doesn't like it...simple...leave it as it is!!

[Robert Taylor]

yep...shoes on the other foot now and rossi doesn't like it...simple...leave it as it is!!

MotoGP is as much about technology, nothing wrong in that. You can bet the Michelin guys are working very hard right now. Nothing wrong in that either, Im sure the Bridgestone people put in the hours to get where they are at present.

Both Stoner and Rossi are great ambassadors for the sport, I suspect Rossi is still the better rider but is currently compromised by the tyres.

[White trash]

I could name a couple of whining ( and fast ) posers on the NZ road racing scene as well. With egos a mile wide and a dark side of playing mind games with people.

Be nice if you kept that info to tourself thanks all the same Mr Taylor

[denill]

If it's all about the rider then shouldn't they all be riding the same bike with the same tyre?

So are you saying they should all ride say, a Honda on say Dunlops??

Nah, that's not goin to happen. In the real world it's - the best man - on the best bike - on the best tyres - that wins.

[Robert Taylor]

Be nice if you kept that info to tourself thanks all the same Mr Taylor

Absolutely! BTW, it was a delight helping with the initial set up of your bike as your demeanour was polite, unruffled and business like. Your nom de plume is inappropriate!

[DEATH_INC.]

Absolutely! BTW, it was a delight helping with the initial set up of your bike as your demeanour was polite, unruffled and business like. Your nom de plume is inappropriate!

Wait 'till you get to know him......

[cowpoos]

Wait 'till you get to know him......

I'm wondering if Roberts talking about a different guy??

[pritch]

Anyone seen a 800cc V4 kawasaki in a showroom???

Isn't the Kwaka GP bike still an inline four?

There is an 800cc Honda V4 parked right outside :-)

[k14]

Yeah also on that logic you'd be expecting to see a 3 litre v8 ferrari (or honda, toyota, bmw) with big wings and a cockpit for just one driver in the showroom too.

[Matt Bleck]

So are you saying they should all ride say, a Honda on say Dunlops??

Nah, that's not goin to happen. In the real world it's - the best man - on the best bike - on the best tyres - that wins.

That's excatly what i was getting at....

[jrandom]

I wanna see an R1 with Pirelli Diablos race a ZX10 on Pilots, with riders that dropped out of school cos they thought they were the next Troy Corser, but they drank too much last night so they are seeing double.

Just rock on up to the next Coro Loop, dude...

[denill]

That's excatly what i was getting at....

Yeah, I s'pose it was too. I took you seriously

[avgas]

Just rock on up to the next Coro Loop, dude...

Nah i get too reckless riding with others - its too easy to get cocky in coro if its ya old stomping ground.
Plus the FZ is too dodgey there lately, they have coated the Kopu with some kind of tarseal the fz no like.
Motard material now

[avgas]

Yeah also on that logic you'd be expecting to see a 3 litre v8 ferrari (or honda, toyota, bmw) with big wings and a cockpit for just one driver in the showroom too.

Lets see, enzo, zonda, Elise.
Dont forget all the ex rally cars wrx, evo etc
BTTC - BMW, Lexus etc
Drag cars
Funniest thing, is you could buy an RGV500, RZ500, TZ...... but what moto gp bikes can you buy?
I love it how people get all defensive about Moto GP on KB, yet if i use everything in the same context about F1, how many people would complain.
Just cos it has bikes in it doesn't mean its any better.
I liked the comment about the engineers/mechanics - as those guys are the unsung heroes of moto gp. Without them, moto gp would be whining kids on crap bikes.