From a cage perspective

[Usarka]

this'll make friends bahahaha.

If i'm driving in a single lane in my workmobile and a car pulls out in front of me I will go around to the left without looking for a bike because you shouldn't be there!

pass on the right that's where every one expects you to pass. if your going to pass on the left of moving traffic then i hope the horn was a "please notice me" rather than a "fuck you arsehole" next time i'll look, but next time dont be there!

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[jrandom]

Single lane? Yup, you're quite within your rights to swerve wildly to the left with your eyes closed. Naturally, you'd never pull over into another lane to your left without checking carefully, would you?

Good, I thought not.

Of course, one could say that relying on other road users to behave within arbitrary parameters is a doomed philosophy right from the start, but I'm sure your well-intentioned thread, here, will nonetheless do oodles of good for all the thoughtless motorcyclists reading it.

[FROSTY:Me]

If i'm driving in a single lane in my workmobile and a car pulls out in front of me I will go around to the left without looking for a bike because you shouldn't be there!.

NO burn from me-As long as it was a single lane road I agree passing on the left is a pretty dumb move

[Usarka]

i felt pretty stink to be honest. i always check when moving right or changing lanes (incl head check learnt from riding) and was quite surprised that i didnt in this instance heading left. was a last minute thing and *assumed* that no one would be silly enough to pass on left.

my point in posting kinda was that if thats how a biker behaves in a car.........

[Grahameeboy]

Brakes???....................

[jrandom]

my point in posting kinda was that if thats how a biker behaves in a car.........

Of course.

Personally, I'd never ride past a car on the left in a single lane unless I was sure that I could do it quickly enough and with sufficient space that he wouldn't be able to swerve into me.

[Nasty]

Good post ... good points ... and no it wasn't me

[mbazza]

1. I have noticed an increasing tendancy for drivers (all sorts) to swerve to the right, across the centre lane when the way ahead is impeded, like by a vehicle turning left into a drive way. It is as if the swerving driver hasn't got the time to break and wait. Happens more often on the bike, but I observe it happening when I am following also.
2. On recent Aussie trip I realised that Aussie drivers are more predicatble in single and multi lanes. Makes riding the bike easier. Only problems seen were idiots with load music and a Darwinian injection.
Cheers

[Pancakes]

I agree that passing on the left is illegal therefore you would be in the right if you hit someone. This is no reason to not look tho! What if a child was walking onto the road? They shouldn't be there either? If you kill someone but are legally not at fault will you feel any better? Is this not looking because if someone is there they are in the wrong going to serve you well if you take the habit over to your riding? If you are insisting people don't ride illegally (pass on the left) you must do the same and be aware of all vehicles around you, if you are aware that someone is there will you pull into them anyway to proove your point potentially at the expence of their life? Follow them home and tell their wife they were 1 second away from death because they were passing illegally and that her and the kids would be dad-less and cash-less if he died breaking the law then leave it to her!!

edit, not having a go at you bro but other peoples mistakes can haunt you for a lifetime, my best friends dad is one of three brothers. His oldest bro was driving home drunk as and the other bro was driving away from the house. Big brother looses it around a corner and drivers door hits the other brothers car right in the front (big old ozzy cars, no crumples zones, no belt on). Little brother did nothing wrong, no charges laid and police said he had done waht he could to loose the speed etc but the other car was blocking the road. Still saw his brother die in some crushed tin jammed on the front of his car tho a.

[Coldrider]

I agree that passing on the left is illegal therefore you would be in the right if you hit someone.

The law never states who is in the right, only who is wrong, or who must give way. We never actually have a right of way. That's why the law is an ass, and lawyers rip us off.

[Pancakes]

Yep your right. No rights just wrongs.

[Boob Johnson]

Single lane? Yup, you're quite within your rights to swerve wildly to the left with your eyes closed. Naturally, you'd never pull over into another lane to your left without checking carefully, would you?

Good, I thought not.

Of course, one could say that relying on other road users to behave within arbitrary parameters is a doomed philosophy right from the start, but I'm sure your well-intentioned thread, here, will nonetheless do oodles of good for all the thoughtless motorcyclists reading it.

*And the award of 17 virgins for th e post of the year goes too.............*


lol seriously well said


(rep on the way)

[ceebie13]

So, let me get this straight.... is it actually illegal to over take on the left on a dual carriageway? This country seems inundated with members of the RLOC (Right Lane Owners Club) and since being in NZ, I have adopted what seems to be the norm...ie: if the person in the RH lane ahead is oblivious or won't move to the left lane, I overtake him/her on the inside. What we call "undertaking" in the UK.

I'm sure the answer is in my Road Code but I can't be arsed to go look for it!

[McJim]

When a car pulls out in front of me - I slow down.

It's not a race...although most kiwi drivers seem to think that it is....odd.

[McJim]

So, let me get this straight.... is it actually illegal to over take on the left on a dual carriageway? This country seems inundated with members of the RLOC (Right Lane Owners Club) and since being in NZ, I have adopted what seems to be the norm...ie: if the person in the RH lane ahead is oblivious or won't move to the left lane, I overtake him/her on the inside. What we call "undertaking" in the UK.

I'm sure the answer is in my Road Code but I can't be arsed to go look for it!

Where there is marked lane separation it IS legal to overtake on the left. Undertaking is arranging funerals though. Overtaking on the left is illegal in the UK unless the car in front is turning right (Not saying this for your benefit ceebie13 as I'm sure you already know this).

However in the UK it is also illegal for an articulated vehicle (such as a lorry or B train) to occupy the second overtaking lane (yep they're not called fast lanes) AND a car using the centre lane of three can be charged for using the lane WHILE NOT ACTUALLY OVERTAKING ANOTHER VEHICLE.

Wish we had some of those laws here - the cops would make a fortune booking the drongos without a clue and we would be free to pootle through the countryside at a civilised 70mph.