Charged with dangerous driving. What's going to happen?

**Mom** · 2nd September 2007, 10:31

Just a quick post to let the serial red repper and sender of PM's know that he is now on my ignore list, so mate give it up eh, can't see your rep, anything you post or any PM's you send

**Patrick** · 2nd September 2007, 10:40

Originally Posted by jade

And often those "procedures" have absolutely nothing to do with the facts on why you were caught... Not being given the two copies of the form is not a biggie, the other copy will be on the Prosecution File. The cop breaking the law... hmmm... blame shift... good one... Handcuffing prevents any assault, jumping out of the car, whatever...

Pat I didnt mean to imply that those things I thought were shitty might get him off, I dont know the law (tho a few family members are cops)
I just thought they were shitty

no biggie

No problems... just got in to point out the fairly obvious before it turned into yet another anti cop thread...

**marty** · 2nd September 2007, 17:37

Originally Posted by Toaster

Keep in mind police work shifts and the guy may be on leave. Give them time to return calls. They dont work Mon-Fri like most and are often busy or out attending jobs.

unfortunately mark has no concept of what people do at work, so he may have some difficulty realising this......

**slickaz** · 3rd September 2007, 14:07

Mark.im new here dude and have read each page.
im also new to biking
1. i hope i never get addicted to riding like your apparent way of riding, to then get into a situation like this.
2. i feel sorry that you're getting this kind of treatment here from fellow bikers, but after reading thier side, it seems you do this alot.
3. Touchwood ive been Blessed with never having to deal with cops in my driving life. but i did date a police officer, she had something to say about this (we are still friends, so i spoke to her).
you probably will not go to jail for this, but you will have a whole heap of fines to pay. but she says if it happens again you're probably pretty much throwing your life away. oh she also said you need to make a good guilty plea at the court along with the show that youve learnt a lesson. dont act like you were in the right taking the law into your hands.
also dont beg to have your bike back, because thatll make the judge think you're going to hop on it straight outside the court.lol.
Also mentioned is using the service of the appointed lawyer, they have apparantly saved many a crim in court that the police have worked hard to catch and get proof against.
PS: about getting your bike back, she said try walking into thye police station and pleading for it, but ensure you dont ride it out of the place as thatll only add to the fury the cops already have 'against' you. get a friend to ride it.

But as a 25 year old telling you this..avoid these situations again, you are not Street Hawk..
There seems already alot of fury against you on here, you dont want to get on the bad side of the biggest baddest most powerful gang in the country (the cops)

**slickaz** · 3rd September 2007, 14:10

PS: i think iv seen you hoonin on the south western motorway a couple of months back, you were doing a wheelie coming of the on ramp from onehunga.im not sure but the bike looked like yours in the pic.. amazing as it was, i was thinkin that guy must be a complete idiot coz he came off the ramp lights whizzing past and then lifted his front wheels off the ground riding at about 80 to 100 easy because you went past me on one wheel between lanes filled with cars and i was stuck in traffic doing 75ish...well if it was you..great skill but bad bad timing.

**skidMark** · 3rd September 2007, 14:33

nah not me buddy, havn't had the bike that long..and it's only a 250 LOL

**slickaz** · 3rd September 2007, 14:40

k then..mabad..again im doing the same thing i was preaching against i guess..apologies

**Sniper** · 3rd September 2007, 14:41

No offence dude, but I remember you posting this

Originally Posted by skidmark

ive had alot of time to reflect though, and in the end have realised loosing my license was the best thing that couldve happened to me, i lost it before i lost my life, this time to look back has made me take a really hard look at my riding, yes i'm still going to have fun on the open road etc, but around 50kph zones is no place for it.

Make sure you don't dig yourself a hole by saying too much in court

**sefer** · 3rd September 2007, 15:41

Ok well I can't be bothered reading all the pages so if someone has already said it move along..

But, from my own experience with a dangerous driving charge when I was about 18 (and general court experience) here's a couple of things I had wished I'd known then..

1) You can defend the charge if you think it's not justified. Don't let anyone but a good lawyer convince you otherwise.

2) Get to the court early if you intend to use the duty lawyer, really early, there will be 30+ other people doing the same thing.

3) The duty lawyer will work in your best interest, and most of the time are actually really good lawyers (despite what many may think), BUT as mentioned they will be dealing with a huge number of people, so they won't have a great deal of time for you, so in my opinion your better off to either have your own lawyer well in advance of the day (so they can fully understand your case), or use the duty lawyer to get you another court date if it's getting too close and organize another lawyer after that.

If you take the second option just be aware that it's the judge who decides if you get another date or not, in my experience they usually will grant it, just make sure you actually get a lawyer, it looks really bad if you show up without one the second time (often used as a ploy to stay out of jail for as long as possible).

Try legal aid for a lawyer if you can, if not cough up the cash, I've found it worth it for the couple of times I've been up. look at it this way, the duty lawyer will advise you on the best action according to the case, your own lawyer will attempt to get you off anyway they can (or attempt lower the fine/whatever if your screwed).

Last word of advice, when talking to the lawyer, whoever you go with, be honest with them, but keep it relevant.

**Katman** · 3rd September 2007, 15:47

Stumbled upon this gem, posted 2 July 2006

"Changing my dangerous ways
riding round early this afternoon riding along like a moron again lane splitting in 50 zones and all that stupid crap speeding and so on go round this car and they gave me evils....oh watever look at something else... i think to myself get up to some lights... stopped at the lights....nailed it redlining every gear thinking i am god. flicking it through corners at just plain stupid speeds.

then i dunno wtf it was but i just looked behind had miles behind me thought time to change my ways...i have no idea what bought about this change.....stomped on the anchors down to just hovering on 50 kph... and rode round 50 kph zones at 50 the whole day yes if traffic was doing 55 or so i hovered there but not the usual 90-110+ lane splitting speeds.....

i am sure this is a resolve to myself i need to and am going to keep before i either loose my license or kill myself or somebody else because of my dangerous ways....

thank you to all the people that had told me to just chill and stop playing ghostrider...

i'm sure i will be much better off for it....

and ive had my kicks of being a retard on the roads.... it's time to grow up be an adult and respect that the roads are for others too....

so i am resolving to ride sensibly from now on mainly not speeding but also stopping the weaving in and out of lanes riding down the road standing on my seat....riding down the road with both feet slung out to the same side of the bike doing the can can......

time to grow up....and i did...all afternoon...

and i plan to keep doing this....somethings triggered me

i was always so angry with myself that i rode the way i did and had no self control or patience on the roads...

now ive woken up and plan to keep it that way...

i know your probably all going to poke shit at me about this thread go ahead i know what ive been doing up until now was stupid and down right dangerous ....

Cheers: Mark"

**Sniper** · 3rd September 2007, 15:49

Katman. The day Mark means something like that, hell freezes over.

Mark seems like a good kid, but sometimes engages rthe vocal chords before the grey matter

**Sanx** · 3rd September 2007, 15:55

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Can someone give me the link to Mark's story please. I just read his firts blurb about his dangerous driving and impound but it doesnt say what actually happened..this isnt adding up with the impound.

I didn't think it added up either ... sure, there are various reasons for impound, but if as SkidMark says, he was charged only with dangerous driving, then there's no justification for it. The lack of paperwork is no biggie, but the least skidMark should be doing is fronting it at the station and politley but firmly requiring it gets sorted then and there.

So, SkidMark - you've had offers from zrxer to help you out at the station. I'll also offer to front up with you too. If you want to take me up on it, drop me a PM.

**surfchick** · 3rd September 2007, 16:11

hi mark,
i been reading ya threads above - noticed agression in how describe your ride style and agro in how you deal with other vehicles - i'm thinking on how lethal agression is in vehcles when what you actually need is steely ice-cold control and discipline, to assess every road surface, every road user and make calculated positioning choices. BUT you choose to be pretty flippant with ya bike by your own account so I'm thinking ya must have some aggression, some anger AND enjoy adrenalin SO how about considering some options for sport that use fearlessness - like surfing - where in a way agression and a kind of wreckless streak makes you better at it but there's not the same risk to other people... may-be surfing's not for you...but i thought it might be good to redoploy the"psycho" within so it costs you less dough