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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Well Bush and Blair are not authentic Christians and agree the rest so that is 4406 so far...............always bad eggs and must admit I have issues with Catholicism at times...
    Unfortunately, that's the excuse given for anyone who commits atrocities under the guise of religion, whether it's Catholics versus Protestants in Northern Ireland or Glasgow, Muslims versus Christians in Kosovo, Muslims vs animists in Darfur, Muslims versus Jews in Israel, Shia versus Sunni in Iraq, Muslims versus Hindus in Kashmir, Hindus versus Buddhists in Sri Lanka, etc. etc. The same excuse every time: oh, they're not real Jews / Christians / Muslims / Hindus / Buddhists *delete as appropriate.

    But adding to the list of dangerous Christians of the protestant variety: Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell in the USA, who both announced within hours of 9/11 that the immolation of 3000+ people was divine judgement on a society that tolerated homosexuality and abortion. You can also add the Westboro Baptist Church (NSFW) and the anti-abortion groups in the US who have killed and maimed staff and clients of clinics that perform abortion. And then you've got the Mormons, the more extreme of whom have well documented polygamist and paedophilic tendencies...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    but at end of day they will have to answer......
    Or not, as I believe. The people to whom they should be answering are the people they abused or the families of those they've killed. Again, it's much easier for their religious critics (and them themselves) to say that they're ultimately answerable to god, as no-one can check god's paper trail and see whether they did indeed receive a fitting punishment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy
    I agree...Bush is a prime example of this but he is not an authentic Christian in my eyes cause no one in my Church kills in gods name............so if an Atheist kills what is their excuse......??
    There is no excuse. But coming up with no valid excuse is a hell of a lot better than trying to say one's imaginary friend told them to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy
    Stalin was actually a closet Atheist but later made his peace with God bringing back Priests.....the others were not Christians.....
    I was naming atheists, not Christians. I never said that atheists were inherently less evil or immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Caused by riding sprotsbikes, scroters, or crusiers? Or spending too much time in one's evel gargre?

    And I share your fascination for bogus statistics. Like LTNZ's latest campaign that alleges that 50% of road accidents occur on corners. Which means that... 50% of road accidents must occur on straights! Where is the "hard-hitting" campaign and freshly-trashed Falcon as a result of driver error on a straight stretch of road? Why do these "people" have to make shit up to make a point? It does their credibility no favours.

    They should have used a Holden in that advert, it wouldnt have crashed (I bet Ford arent happy with it!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanx View Post
    Unfortunately, that's the excuse given for anyone who commits atrocities under the guise of religion, whether it's Catholics versus Protestants in Northern Ireland or Glasgow, Muslims versus Christians in Kosovo, Muslims vs animists in Darfur, Muslims versus Jews in Israel, Shia versus Sunni in Iraq, Muslims versus Hindus in Kashmir, Hindus versus Buddhists in Sri Lanka, etc. etc. The same excuse every time: oh, they're not real Jews / Christians / Muslims / Hindus / Buddhists *delete as appropriate.

    But adding to the list of dangerous Christians of the protestant variety: Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell in the USA, who both announced within hours of 9/11 that the immolation of 3000+ people was divine judgement on a society that tolerated homosexuality and abortion. You can also add the Westboro Baptist Church (NSFW) and the anti-abortion groups in the US who have killed and maimed staff and clients of clinics that perform abortion. And then you've got the Mormons, the more extreme of whom have well documented polygamist and paedophilic tendencies...



    Or not, as I believe. The people to whom they should be answering are the people they abused or the families of those they've killed. Again, it's much easier for their religious critics (and them themselves) to say that they're ultimately answerable to god, as no-one can check god's paper trail and see whether they did indeed receive a fitting punishment.



    There is no excuse. But coming up with no valid excuse is a hell of a lot better than trying to say one's imaginary friend told them to do it.



    I was naming atheists, not Christians. I never said that atheists were inherently less evil or immoral.

    Sorry I misread...agree the rest of what you say.......anyway, God uses e-mail these days and just deletes for security..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    anyway, God uses e-mail these days
    That explains all the fucken spam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekk View Post
    ......
    KB isn't real. Shhhh.
    SMILE when you say that, pardner!!
    ... ...

    Grass wedges its way between the closest blocks of marble and it brings them down. This power of feeble life which can creep in anywhere is greater than that of the mighty behind their cannons....... - Honore de Balzac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    That explains all the fucken spam.
    Well remember he is omnipresent...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    That explains all the fucken spam.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Well remember he is omnipresent...............
    Why don't you two get a room in Religious Ravings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    MMmmm! Didn't Bruce Willis do that already...?
    Very true!

    Bruce doesn't post here though. 'shame really. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by mstriumph
    SMILE when you say that, pardner!!

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