Self control...

[sunhuntin]

So- do you have a 'notch' system, ..?

yeh, i do actually. its called an odometer.

[smoky]

so you would rather someone like mark kills themselves riding like an idiot, ...... its not about riding so carefully that its pointless, its about not riding like a maniac while still having fun.

the virago has reached a speed of 120k, never popped a wheelie ..... i still have a great time every single time we go out,

I think I would soon be looking for a little more if I was riding a virago for too long. But that's about personal choice – and what level of thrill you get use to or find an acceptable risk for you.

Like someone who rides a 250 and is a little inexperienced, still finds himself in a over cooked situation and still sorting some of the basics out – then the risk is probably to high and unacceptable riding at higher speeds or pushing it a bit. But some riders I know on KB would find riding pointless at that level and their level of acceptable risk is higher.

We all need to understand where our limits are, when we get too confident is when things can go wrong.
Riding a bike you’re also exposed to the random elements that can take you out at anytime, regardless of how safe you think you’re being.

Riding a bike is not about how fast or how others ride – it’s about the balance of risk taking – learn that art and you can take that skill into the business arena as well.

[jazbug5]

yeh, i do actually. its called an odometer.

Don't you mean an urseometer?






I'm flogging this thing to death, aren't I...

[skidMark]

i dunno jazbug...u tell me lol

[Wolf]

I'm flogging this thing to death, aren't I...

Dunno, I'm still wondering how many bears she found in the South Island.

[sunhuntin]

Don't you mean an urseometer?






I'm flogging this thing to death, aren't I...

a what?

wolf.... more than we could count, and way more than the bike could carry! LOL. had to post em home in about 5 or 6 of the biggest boxes the post shops stock. did have a photo, but the mem. card went wacko and wiped them.

[Edbear]

When I woke up during surgery (!)

Doncha jes' hate it when that happens...?

[inlinefour]

i dunno...u tell me lol

You could start listening/reading and considering what it is in these threads that you do not like. I don't think joining a martial arts training group will help, you do not appear to be the type of lad that tends to see things through. Not sure if joining the armed forces would be a good idea either, you might end up making plenty of problems there, assuming you would be allowed to enlist. But its also quite possible that something like the army could force you to get things squared away nicely. Getting a smaller/less powerfull bike might not work either, as it could mean that you continue doing dangerous riding, but spend more time doing it on a slower bike. One definite way to stop Mark, would be by getting rid of your bike(s), but thats a harsh option. Your more than welcome to come around here and have a look at all my equipment, wheelchair and get a rundown on what its like to be a paraplegic. As I suspect your unlikely to take me up on this option either, I will post for the first time a picture of what I did to my back. Mark, please remember that I did all this damage on a 125cc bike and it was not on the road. Maybe you can print off this picture, put it on the wall next to the tickets and start considering the risks? Good luck Mark, half the battle is over as you can admit to the problem. The other half of the battle is now to be won, by successfully doing something about it and utimately, it will come from within.

[sunhuntin]

top post, john. very well said.

[megageoff76]

Yep, good post. Reading that would make anyone slow down.

[inlinefour]

top post, john. very well said.

Yep, good post. Reading that would make anyone slow down.

Dunno, I thought about what to post for awhile as I am aware that alot of what has been posted for Mark's benefit might have fallen on deaf ears. But hopefully the reality of life could change that, I just hope Mark has taken the time to read it and also think about it.
Mind you, if it gets one biker to slow down and avoid a bin, its gotta be all good.

[smoky]

Mind you, if it gets one biker to slow down and avoid a bin, its gotta be all good.

Dear inline4 – while I respect your sentiment and feel for your tragedy, I didn’t think speed was a factor in your accident, in fact I thought you were in the sand at the time?

Do you believe no one should exceed the speed limit? At all?

[inlinefour]

Dear inline4 – while I respect your sentiment and feel for your tragedy, I didn’t think speed was a factor in your accident, in fact I thought you were in the sand at the time?

Do you believe no one should exceed the speed limit? At all?

If you think any of the above, apart for being on the sand, you'd be wrong. Do you think I rode around at 100kph on the CBR? Ask some of the people I rode with and offline they will tell you what sort of rider I was. My accident, I was going as fast as the CR125R could go, hence the serious injuries, I was no stranger to speed. The above post was specifically aimed at skidMark, who admits to a problem and apparently would like to do something about it. I think its a good idea myself, because I would not want to see any rider end up like myself, or worse. You think that is a bad thing?

[smoky]

Do you think I rode around at 100kph on the CBR? Ask some of the people I rode with and offline they will tell you what sort of rider I was. I was no stranger to speed. ......

I wasn't questioning your reputation as a rider

I think its a good idea myself, because I would not want to see any rider end up like myself, or worse. You think that is a bad thing?

I wasn't suggesting it was a bad thing - I for one would not encourage anyone to ride like an idiot.

But as a result of what happened to you - you are in a position to give a unique perspective, so my question was; do you advocate everyone should refrain from exceeding the speed limits?

[inlinefour]

I wasn't questioning your reputation as a rider



I wasn't suggesting it was a bad thing - I for one would not encourage anyone to ride like an idiot.

But as a result of what happened to you - you are in a position to give a unique perspective, so my question was; do you advocate everyone should refrain from exceeding the speed limits?

No I do not think everyone should refrain, but there is allways a time and a place to do so. When someone cannot tell the difference, thats when the problems tend to occur.