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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    On the XS ? mm without having a really good look I'd say either Girling or S&W
    Will suss it out as what i have will be binned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Will suss it out as what i have will be binned.
    OEM ones huh? lols when I had my old 750 & 850 the first things I ditched were the rear shocks and Koni 7610s were put in place farkin heaps better!

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    I had a J model - great bike. Plenty of grunt (in the context of the day) and good economy in standard trim.
    Fear not the drum brakes - they were far superior to the discs that appeared in '75 on the GT, especially in the wet.
    If it hasn't been running for ten years, the crank seals will probably need replacing.
    If you want to thrash it, be prepared for gearbox problems, especially fifth gear. Advancing the port timing (shave the top off the barrels and use two base gaskets) and adding Bassani chambers will help you achieve this.

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    If you have a soft spot for this sort of thing, then go for it. The T500 is a classic now. I know of a minter in a shed in Napier - the owner does not ride, will never ride it, and has said he'll never sell it.
    Lots of info out there for them, but one thing often overlooked is the oilpump. They are driven off the g/box side of the clutch?? and you never left them going for long with the clutch in. And the left-side kick start takes a bit of getting used to.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Here's a few links on Titans
    Big Ups TWR. I had been to one of those but not the others. I'm off for a look at the bike today hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    And the left-side kick start takes a bit of getting used to.

    Yeah but no problems after a while. I loved my '73 and had a ball on it. Only problem I had was the kick start key broke on the shaft, apparently a common issue. HAd it welded but it broke again so I just used to push start it until I sold it to get married.

    5th gear was overdriven and top speed was 112mph indicated in fourth but changing up dropped that to 105mph. A common mod was to drop the countershaft sprocket a tooth which brought 5th lower and then top speed rose to about 115mph.

    I used two grades of spark plug, both Champion's. L78's for open road as they were a colder plug and L82Y's for around town to avoid them oiling up. If one left the L82Y's in and caned it one could expect to burn holes in the tops of the pistons...

    I never had an issue with the drum brakes, but then one rides according to the performance of the bike.

    Most of the tidy models I've seen for sale are around the $15OO-$2500 range.

    An early Titan would be worth more than the later GT. The original Titan had a shorter wheelbase and a couple more HP and was a bit of an animal so Suzuki tamed it slightly after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    Big Ups TWR. I had been to one of those but not the others. I'm off for a look at the bike today hopefully.
    No probs

    Hope the visit to the bike confirms expectations

    I had most of the links from a couple of years ago as a mate purchased one with the intent of doing it up to race. Not actually sure what came of it and the bike could be sitting in his garage collecting dust, was an older model with TLS front brake, Might have to investigate that further

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post

    I used two grades of spark plug, both Champion's. L78's for open road as they were a colder plug and L82Y's for around town to avoid them oiling up. If one left the L82Y's in and caned it one could expect to burn holes in the tops of the pistons...

    I never had an issue with the drum brakes, but then one rides according to the performance of the bike.

    Most of the tidy models I've seen for sale are around the $15OO-$2500 range.

    An early Titan would be worth more than the later GT. The original Titan had a shorter wheelbase and a couple more HP and was a bit of an animal so Suzuki tamed it slightly after that.
    I had 2. One in about 1974 and another about 1982. The first one was a 1971 model (first of the detuned ones?) and I ran Bosch plugs in it cos it ate Champions. Those Bosch plugs lasted about 12 months and 10,000 miles. Whereas Champions lasted about 3 weeks if I was lucky.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Went and had a good look this morning. It is pretty much as he described with the only non-standard bits being the front indicators. The odo indicated over 50,000 miles but that's probably meaningless. The pictures attached don't show it well, but all the chrome (including the plastic chrome sidecovers) is badly pitted. The wheel rims probably the worst but it didn't seem to be structural. The cylinder head seems to have had a silver paint job that is now peeling off. It was ridden into the gargre 10 years ago and left untouched. It still has half a tank of gas but we didn't try starting it. The limited inspection I could make of the inside of the tank revealed suprising little corrosion. It did turn over and had compression. Before he parked it up the only problem he had with it was that the bike would lurch forward when put into gear. Clutch problem?
    Thinking out loud...I expect that mechanically it is going to need a fair bit of effort to get running, but I wont know until I get started. It seems like I can pretty much assume that the crank-case seals will have to be replaced and that's if I can still get the seals. In fact half the rubber seals on the bike will probably need to be binned. The clutch may need some work and although the only problem he had with the gearbox was occasional jumping out of gear (couldn't remember which gear), my research indicated that I would need to be prepared for problems with 4th and 5th gear. After a cooling off period I am thinking that the financial investment required to get this running and restored would be beyond what I am willing to commit. It's a bit of a shame because it is all there, but probably gone beyond a requiring a simple oil and fuel change, battery and you're away riding. Then to get it mint might really break the bank. He isn't asking for a heap of money for it but like everyone else, I have other places I could put the start-up cash required. Does anyone have any reliable info about what rechroming costs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    Does anyone have any reliable info about what rechroming costs?
    I know it's not Bwitish but Paul NZ and his crronies seem to pretty well connected to all the restoration services avaialble

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    Sorry to hear things didn't work out this time Clive.
    But some things just aren't meant to be. Keep your pingers for another classic beauty. I must say though I didn't think that you'd be into bikes this old, shit you must be really old........... Ha!

    Cool taste in brand I must say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grub View Post
    I know it's not Bwitish but Paul NZ and his crronies seem to pretty well connected to all the restoration services avaialble
    Good tip. I will PM him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully60 View Post
    Sorry to hear things didn't work out this time Clive.
    But some things just aren't meant to be. Keep your pingers for another classic beauty. I must say though I didn't think that you'd be into bikes this old, shit you must be really old........... Ha!

    Cool taste in brand I must say!
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    Cheers Sully. I haven't made the final decision but the weight of logic is getting oppressive. The good news is that there is an alternative in the pipeline though. I can get my hands on a Honda XL250 (of the motorsport era) but I am totally unsure about what kind of nick it is in. It will be free though. Vintage MX anyone? That's certainly closer to what an old geezer like me grew up riding.

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    Ah the memories, my second and third bikes ever were a Titan 500 and GT 500. They are fuckin great bikes, dont stop, handle like shit, but fuck did they surprise people when ya twist the throttle. Had mine up to 180 once, never do it again.

    The hinge I understand they were called, the swing arm is so long, and just flexes everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    Cheers Sully. I haven't made the final decision but the weight of logic is getting oppressive. The good news is that there is an alternative in the pipeline though. I can get my hands on a Honda XL250 (of the motorsport era) but I am totally unsure about what kind of nick it is in. It will be free though. Vintage MX anyone? That's certainly closer to what an old geezer like me grew up riding.
    An old silver 250 motorsport would be one of my most desired bikes to find and restore.
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