Police shoot and kill another person

[I Smell Bacon]

What risk....you have 5 trained cops with batons against 1 guy with a knife......they could have aimed for his legs if they used their guns.

What real risk was the guy to the cops. Did they really fear for their lives??

With the NZ cop I accept that he feared for his life and whilst I am not in favour of guns, I am not critical of what he did as it was him alone with the hammer guy

A determined offender will knife at least one of them, nowhere in my job description does it say that I have to take a knife in the interest of fair play.

[Grahameeboy]

A determined offender will knife at least one of them, nowhere in my job description does it say that I have to take a knife in the interest of fair play.

Okay....................

[pritch]

just don't like violence of any kind....

While that is admirable it is completely out of step with the world at large.

There are a lot of violent people out there and if they meet with a violent end of their own choosing it may sadden you, but don't waste too many tears for them.

There are others more worthy of your concern, for instance right now hundreds of Bhudist monks in Burma...

[Mr Merde]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/stor...ectid=10466842

12:35PM Sunday September 30, 2007


Two police officers were forced to take evasive action when they were confronted by a man swinging an axe in Napier early today.
One officer managed to get out of the way, so the man turned his attention to the other officer, who got behind a parked car, Senior Sergeant Andy Sloane said.
The man's associates then managed get the axe off him before he ran into a nearby property.
When he approached the two officers again shortly afterwards, he was pepper sprayed and handcuffed.
The man is due to appear in court tomorrow facing two charges of assault with a weapon.
Mr Sloane said the incident happened after police were called to McGrath St about 3.45am by residents concerned about a group of people milling around vehicles in the street.
When the two officers were talking to the group and taking down details, the man ran at them from "out of nowhere" with the axe.
He praised the officers for the way they handled the situation and said the pair had come through the incident "as good as gold".



Ok answer me this.

This man with an axe was over come and disabled whilst a man with a hammer was shot and killed.

Are the levels of training that different over the country?

I know this is a simplistic view but what is the difference between and axe and a hammer in the danger they pose?

Merde

[Usarka]

[Ok answer me this.

This man with an axe was over come and disabled whilst a man with a hammer was shot and killed.

Are the levels of training that different over the country?

it read to me that it was the guys mates that took the axe off him.

The cops were following gbs advice and legging it. would'a been interesting if he'd chopped one of his mates.

[Goblin]

The man's associates then managed get the axe off him before he ran into a nearby property.

Merde

There's the difference right there!

[scumdog]

Ok answer me this.

This man with an axe was over come and disabled whilst a man with a hammer was shot and killed.

Are the levels of training that different over the country?

I know this is a simplistic view but what is the difference between and axe and a hammer in the danger they pose?

Merde

Different circumstances.

Timing?

i.e. the first officer was face to face with the ofender who may/may not have attacked a bystander but potentially posed a threat to them.

Second guy seemed to be only after the police - who had time/circumstances to distance themselves from him AND he was disarmed by 'associates'

Had the officers been armed Darwins law may have struck again.

[jrandom]

This man with an axe was over come and disabled whilst a man with a hammer was shot and killed.

Disarmed, not overcome and disabled, and by his associates, not by the cops.

Differences:

1. As far as I'm aware, NZ cops don't typically go forth armed unless they're called to an "offender with weapon" type of situation, so responding to the surprise axe attack with Glocks wasn't an option.

2. 'Associates' were present and able to disarm the offender while he was focused on the cops. Presumably at much lesser danger to themselves, since the guy wouldn't have been interested in attacking them.

Imagine if no 'associates' had been there, and either:

(a) one of the cops had been axed; or

(b) the cops had escaped successfully, given their unarmed state and consequent inability to neutralise the offender, and he had gone on to murder a bystander.

What would the unwashed masses be calling for then?

I know this is a simplistic view but what is the difference between and axe and a hammer in the danger they pose?

Same ballpark, I'd say, but that's not really the issue here.

[I Smell Bacon]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/stor...ectid=10466842

12:35PM Sunday September 30, 2007

Ok answer me this.

This man with an axe was over come and disabled whilst a man with a hammer was shot and killed.

Are the levels of training that different over the country?

I know this is a simplistic view but what is the difference between and axe and a hammer in the danger they pose?

Merde

The man's associates then managed get the axe off him before he ran into a nearby property.

Stupid question mate, he didn't have an axe when he was apprehended, therefore the risk was reduce considerably.

[HenryDorsetCase]

hopefully he resisted arrest and was vigorously restrained.

Fucked if I would put up with that sort of shit for what, $50k a year?

[peasea]

hopefully he resisted arrest and was vigorously restrained.

Fucked if I would put up with that sort of shit for what, $50k a year?

But you get better work stories, remember.

What was that guy in Napier on? Anyone figured that out yet?

[Coldrider]

But you get better work stories, remember.

What was that guy in Napier on? Anyone figured that out yet?

I think it is called 'dumb'. A natural occuring process of chemicals hard wired to the brain manifested by procreation.

[Hitcher]

Am I allowed to say that I would not have shot him...

Of course. The best twat is a dead twat.

[idleidolidyll]

Friggin Pigs!
The punishment for bad driving is death by cop, the punishment for vandalism is death by cop............looks like the fukkin cops have been paying too much attention to yanks and their murderous cops!

Cops investigated by cops? what bullshit! They are there to serve the people of NZ not themselves and without a completely independent police complaints authority; there will nevcer be any answerability for crimes committed by cops.

[Hitcher]

Friggin Pigs!

Welcome back, III. We have missed your politely cheerful ways. Much like one misses a red-hot rusty poker being thrust up one's bottom.