Chef stabs assailant and now faces prison.

[Hitcher]

And what really pisses me off is that if you retaliate with force, you'll end up with Bubba as a room mate for a couple of years.

Bullshit. Name me the last case in New Zealand where somebody did serious jail time for retaliating in a situation where they were protecting life, limb or their personal dwelling.

And Bubba would be OK as a room mate, if Bubba wanted to be "mummy"...

[Goblin]

Bullshit. Name me the last case in New Zealand where somebody did serious jail time for retaliating in a situation where they were protecting life, limb or their personal dwelling.

And Bubba would be OK as a room mate, if Bubba wanted to be "mummy"...

Chef gets 2 years for self-defence
Quick summary of the story :

Its late at night, 21 year old chef Shyan Ricky Hill is on his way home in the bus with his uniform, hat and work knife.

6 Gang members are offended by his red shirt, and as they leave the bus they assault him.

They are armed with a flick knife, iron bars, a hammer and spanners.

They spit on him, throw a lighter at him and punch him in the face.

Mr. Hill defends himself by stabbing one of the gang with his chef knife.

Police charge him with attempted murder, and plea bargin it down to injuring with intent to get a guilty plea.
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I sure do hope for your own sake Hitcher, that you are never faced with these groups of young thugs who take joy in beating up unsuspecting people for a laugh....but I guess living in your protected little one eyed world, you aren't even aware of their existence.

[Hitcher]

You still haven't answered my question. I am very familiar with this case. The chef is not doing serious jail time.

[Goblin]

You still haven't answered my question. I am very familiar with this case. The chef is not doing serious jail time.

So what do you consider serious jail time Hitcher?

[Hitcher]

So what do you consider serious jail time Hitcher?

Has the chef been sentenced yet? Not that I have last heard. I think the maximum term for that particular charge is two years, but I haven't seen anything published regarding how long our friend the chef got handed down by the Court.

Edit: I had missed this. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4209128a10.html. Thank you Google. My apologies.

[Mr Merde]

2 years for defending one self from a bunch of arseholes who arent worth the energy their parents expended concieving them.

Harsh.

What did the 6 gang members get.

Fucking nothing.

There is something seriously wrong here.

Kick out the beeding heart liberal arse kissers. They have screwed the system so much that the crims are in charge.

I bet the dick that got stabbed is now getting all the benifits that can be thrown at him, all the "victim support" those tree hugging bastards think he should have and the chef is paying for it.

[Hitcher]

What did the 6 gang members get.

Fucking nothing.

There is something seriously wrong here.

A valid point. It is unclear as to whether or not the Police actually followed up on these folk. But it is also unclear as to whether or not they committed a crime that required Police attention. The fact that none were charged makes me suspect that the Police thought not, or that the act of being nearly killed was presumed to be punishment enough.

[Mr Merde]

A valid point. It is unclear as to whether or not the Police actually followed up on these folk. But it is also unclear as to whether or not they committed a crime that required Police attention. The fact that none were charged makes me suspect that the Police thought not, or that the act of being nearly killed was presumed to be punishment enough.

Surely terrorising a member of the public is a crime. If they were hurt whilst commiting the crime that is their own fucking fault and they should bear all the ramifications and costs of such. If the police are too scared of upsetting them by charging them then the police are definitely in the wrong also. A crime is a crime.

What sot of example is shown here.

If you get hurt while commiting a crime it isnt your fault. It is the fault of an innocent who had the temerity and nerve to actually stand up and say that he would not be a victim.

[peasea]

This whole thing sucks big time, and you know what's going to happen about it? Nothing, that's what! You wanna know why? Coz people are too busy blabbing their arses of on internet forums to scribble a letter to the Minister of Justice (sic), their MP and let them know how we feel.

THAT'S WHY!!!

[Ocean1]

The fact that none were charged makes me suspect that the Police thought not, or that the act of being nearly killed was presumed to be punishment enough.

Not a decision I'd have them make, if the actions ammount to assault with a weapon. The court is the place for serious crime, and last time I looked assault of any flavour was considered serious.

Surely terrorising a member of the public is a crime. If they were hurt whilst commiting the crime that is their own fucking fault and they should bear all the ramifications and costs of such. If the police are too scared of upsetting them by charging them then the police are definitely in the wrong also. A crime is a crime.

What sot of example is shown here.

If you get hurt while commiting a crime it isnt your fault. It is the fault of an innocent who had the temerity and nerve to actually stand up and say that he would not be a victim.

Yup, at the risk of repeating myself the law should at the least disallow any recourse ro compensation for violent criminals. The law should also indemnify the defendants in any such situation, that or guarantee safety from such attacks.

[Goblin]

Surely terrorising a member of the public is a crime. If they were hurt whilst commiting the crime that is their own fucking fault and they should bear all the ramifications and costs of such. If the police are too scared of upsetting them by charging them then the police are definitely in the wrong also. A crime is a crime.

What sot of example is shown here.

If you get hurt while commiting a crime it isnt your fault. It is the fault of an innocent who had the temerity and nerve to actually stand up and say that he would not be a victim.

Unfortunately it goes right to the top of the Police force. Our thin blue line is made up of very successful thugs and bullies and any good cop who tries to stand up to the bullies will always be silenced and kicked out.

I know for a fact that Police here in Rotorua wont do anything to upset the local gangs here. The gangs can do what ever the hell they want and they know the cops wont get involved.

[JimO]

whats the bet that if the arsehole that was stabbed had stabbed the chef (instead of the other way round) he wouldnt have got 2 years because he is a poor little maori who has got into the wrong crowd. The chef on the other hand is a real crim how dare he be alone on a bus coming home from fucking work, he desirved to go away for life for defending himself, and for having a job and i bet he wasnt even a fucken maori

[peasea]

Unfortunately it goes right to the top of the Police force. Our thin blue line is made up of very successful thugs and bullies and any good cop who tries to stand up to the bullies will always be silenced and kicked out.

I know for a fact that Police here in Rotorua wont do anything to upset the local gangs here. The gangs can do what ever the hell they want and they know the cops wont get involved.

That's assuming that they're NOT already involved. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

[mstriumph]

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Its just some money, but it is potentially your life you might be throwing away for not handing the money over.....

on one level yes
on another level it isn't really the money, is it .... it's the victim's 'participation in [and therefore tacit approval of]' the wrongdoing - could be difficult to come to terms with oneself as a person who did that.

.....................Personally, You're a hero and deserve a DB...

i'd rather have a VB .. but only if you're buying!!

[mstriumph]

..............There is something seriously wrong here.

.................

yes

but unfortunately he pleaded guilty to stabbing his attacker 'with intent to do grievious bodily harm'

once again one wonders at at the competency of those supposed to be legally advising and defending him

the devil's in the detail - even wen caught standing over a corpse hacked to death with a meat cleaver - with said cleaver still clutched in one's hot little hand and smothered in blood, guts and gore, the only SENSIBLE thing to say, surely, is either nothing or "i never meant to hurt him i was scared for my life and just defending myself"

as it is the poor sod now has two years to figure out what he did/said wrong.