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    Soooo.....

    Sooooooo....just to recap...........if a Cop points a gun at you and tells you to stop. YOU STOP whatever you are doing! Sounds fair to me. Also, if you can't drive for shit, don't run from the Cops or you'll crash and die, then your parents or any soft-cock bleeding heart liberals that you know (and lots that you don't) will complain about the Cops all because you can't drive and have shit for brains! As you were..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Anyone recall Monty Python's Lumberjack Song? I think I found the correct lyrics.

    Oh, I'm a commissioner, and I'm okay,
    I sleep all night and I work all day.

    CHORUS: He's a commissioner, and he's okay,
    He sleeps all night and he works all day.

    I shoot down folk, I eat my lunch,
    I go to the lava-tree.
    On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
    And have buttered scones for tea.

    Constables: He shoots down folk, he eats his lunch,
    He goes to the lava-tree.
    On Wednesdays 'e goes shoppin'
    And has buttered scones for tea.

    CHORUS

    I shoot down folk, I skip and jump,
    I like to press wild flowers.
    I put on women's clothing,
    And hang around in bars.

    Constables: He shoots down folk, he skips and jumps,
    He likes to press wild flowers.
    He puts on women's clothing
    And hangs around.... In bars???????

    CHORUS

    I shoot down folk, I wear high heels,
    Suspenders and a bra.
    I wish I'd been a girlie
    Just like my dear papa.

    Constables: He cuts down trees, he wears high heels
    Suspenders?? and a .... a Bra????
    (spoken, raggedly) What's this? Wants to be a *girlie*? Oh, My!
    And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!

    CHORUS

    All: He's a commissioner, and he's okaaaaaaayyy..... (BONG)
    ha ha - (courtesy laugh)

    You're a comic genius!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Smell Bacon View Post
    ha ha - (courtesy laugh)

    You're a comic genius!
    What? I've got comical genitals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    What? I've got comical genitals?
    Small willy syndrome?

    That could explain why you have issues.

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    It's pretty ironic that people moan about offenders being shot & killed here, and compare it to the US.

    You know what? This place IS a lot like the US, with the exception that the average bloke doesn't have the same rights as far as defending home and property goes (S.48 isn't that great)

    In 2005, the violent crime rate for Washington D.C. was 1459/100000 people.
    Auckland was 1180/100000 people. And the best bit? Counties/Manakau was 1621/100000 people.

    Surprisingly, in Virginia, where it's legal to carry a concealed handgun, it was 282/100000.

    Food for thought, isn't it? If a crim thinks there's a good chance he'll die, he'll think again before committing a crime huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Smell Bacon View Post
    Small willy syndrome?

    That could explain why you have issues.
    I don't have and FARKIN' issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    I don't have and FARKIN' issues
    well, other than an inability to type properly..
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puddy View Post
    Sooooooo....just to recap...........if a Cop points a gun at you and tells you to stop. YOU STOP whatever you are doing! Sounds fair to me. Also, if you can't drive for shit, don't run from the Cops or you'll crash and die, then your parents or any soft-cock bleeding heart liberals that you know (and lots that you don't) will complain about the Cops all because you can't drive and have shit for brains! As you were..........
    So you want to live in a fascist police state where they serve themselves and don't care about people. A place where speeding is punishable by death and where vandalism is also a death sentence.
    Tell ya what, why don't you fuck off and live your dream in Amerikkka. I for one prefer a place where people are treated with humanity and the police serve the people not politicians and companies.

    The cynical whine by police that this is a case for tasers is sickening. It's actually a case for better training for police and the REMOVAL of dangerous weapons from trigger happy nutcases.
    Don't tell me there was no other choice; that's bullshit. Back off and let the guy smash up some more property; insurance will cover the damage. In the meantime work on some non lethal strategies. Get some gun fired deer/goat nets etc. Only trigger happy wankers would kill a person without considering other means to bring him under control. Fuck the police, they don't have my respect and given their fascism, they don't deserve it either.

    It's time we dumper the Police Complaints Authority and introduced a truly impartial investigation service to stop these police abuses of power.

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    Pommy metroploitan police on trial today, for putting 7 leads into the head of an electrician. Apparently he 'looked' like someone who they had been following as a suspect for the London bombings.
    After the first head shot he refused to comply with police orders.
    They are charged (the police not individuals) under a H & S law that they 'endangered' the life of the electrician and genreal public! I think they later claimed his head was packed with 'mmunitions.
    Electricians must get paid enough to go home in a box etc......
    I hope no-one looks like Michael Jackson.

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    bollocks!
    that's just REPORTED stats.

    the fact is the US is the worlds most violent 1st world nation with some 30,000 gun killings every year. A place where cops shoot first and ask questions later. If you think that's what NZ should be, you're my enemy. I hate fascism and that's what you're advocating.

    Government and it's dpeartments (including Police) are elected to serev the people. Not to control the people as in Amerika. Big Brother has arrived there and it is creeping in here. I despise and reject it and recognise that it is the creeping fascism of capitalism gone mad.
    The middle path is the only honest way; a capitalist economic system with socialist safeguards to prevent abuse from the powerful. That is what has made NZ the envy of so many people around the world. Why change to a system employed by one of the most despised nations on the planet: the USA? That would only invite trouble and abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll
    So you want to live in a fascist police state where they serve themselves and don't care about people. A place where speeding is punishable by death and where vandalism is also a death sentence.


    Please provide emperical evidence to prove people have been deliberately executed for speeding or vandalism. Crashes during police chases don't count.

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll
    Tell ya what, why don't you fuck off and live your dream in Amerikkka. I for one prefer a place where people are treated with humanity and the police serve the people not politicians and companies.


    You may prefer a place like this; surely 99% of all human beings do. There isn't one on this earth currently unfortunately.

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll
    The cynical whine by police that this is a case for tasers is sickening. It's actually a case for better training for police and the REMOVAL of dangerous weapons from trigger happy nutcases.
    Don't tell me there was no other choice; that's bullshit. Back off and let the guy smash up some more property; insurance will cover the damage. In the meantime work on some non lethal strategies. Get some gun fired deer/goat nets etc. Only trigger happy wankers would kill a person without considering other means to bring him under control. Fuck the police, they don't have my respect and given their fascism, they don't deserve it either.


    Rather than whine and complain on here, have you considered making a submission to your MP? However, it seems to me you have a very simplistic view of a complicated situation. You appear to disagree with 90% of the people here. The point remains, only an idiot would continue to act aggressively in the face of a policeman with a gun.
    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll
    It's time we dumper the Police Complaints Authority and introduced a truly impartial investigation service to stop these police abuses of power.
    Not only is it time; it's actually been announced.

    Your argument that police are abusing power leaves me a little confused. The policeman was acting totally lawfully, and responsibly, and IMO did everything by the book. Are you suggesting that the law is at fault, or that the policeman's personal actions were somehow contrary to his legal instructions?

    I feel you may have some valid points here, but TBH its hard to read through the opinion and invective to find them here.

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll
    Government and it's dpeartments (including Police) are elected to serev the people. Not to control the people as in Amerika. Big Brother has arrived there and it is creeping in here. I despise and reject it and recognise that it is the creeping fascism of capitalism gone mad.
    The middle path is the only honest way; a capitalist economic system with socialist safeguards to prevent abuse from the powerful. That is what has made NZ the envy of so many people around the world. Why change to a system employed by one of the most despised nations on the planet: the USA? That would only invite trouble and abuse.
    Crikey, you've got a bee in your bonnet today! It's hard to keep up with all the things about this country that piss you off.

    Could you please give an example of a country you believe DOES have it right?

    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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    "Crashes during police chases don't count."

    yes they do, that's the whole point. Trying to destroy someones argument by denying it to them is fascile and i'm not interested in your silly games.
    If the police are prepared to chase peole to the point of death and beyond, it IS a policing issue and a methodology issue. It's also a legal issue. If I stood to have my bike confiscated I too might decide to do a runner rather than be punished so drastically based on the whimsy of cops. What the fuck else do they expect?

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    "You may prefer a place like this; surely 99% of all human beings do. There isn't one on this earth currently unfortunately."

    NZ is a whole lot closer to it than the USA is but with fascists like you demanding more punitive powers for police without independent monitoring and reporting; we'll soon be as ugly. The fact that no nation is perfect does not mean we should cease striving toward perfection. That's inane.

    Our reputation for honesty, our quality of life etc were not based on our capitalist models. They were based on the intent of the Welfare State and socialist attitudes. If the world were to revert to pure capitalism we may as well just adopt feudalism because that's pretty much the major corporate model being promoted by yanks and their politicians in the (dis)guise of freedom and democracy. Freedom and democracy in the US? THAT'S HILARIOUS! Any serious research will uncover a raft of legal changes that have created corporate law allowing businesses to be superhuman; more rights than people. Graft and corruption are the name of that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Sorry but surely 5 trained cops can deal with 1 man with a knife without injury to themselves.
    But our superman suits were at the drycleaners....

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    [COLOR=DarkOrange] A place where speeding is punishable by death and where vandalism is also a death sentence.
    It is real, it is a place in OZ... they call it DARWIN.

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    Rather than whine and complain on here, have you considered making a submission to your MP? However, it seems to me you have a very simplistic view of a complicated situation. You appear to disagree with 90% of the people here. The point remains, only an idiot would continue to act aggressively in the face of a policeman with a gun."

    bite me. This is a forum and the subject was raised. I have as much right to comment as you have. Any actions I have or have not taken outside this forum are irrelevant. The point is being made here and now and if you don't like it, don't read and reply. I won't miss you.

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