Puppy anyone?

[Blondini]

That's FAR too young. Best wait till AT LEAST 8 to 10 weeks.

Now you sound like my children..

[Mom]

Thinking a Blue Heeler for my next dog though.

Heelers are awesome dogs, but I have discovered that unless brought up with bikes, actually hate them! I worked for a guy that had one, once I got to know "Pip" she never even got off her bed when I came to his house for work. The first day I rode my bike there, she very nearly had me off the damn thing! Biting the hell out of my legs, was not till I spoke to her that she stopped!

[scracha]

Now you sound like my children..

Nah I'm serious. In some countries it's illegal to sell dogs under 8 weeks old. I know they'll be driving you insane but they really benefit from that extra few weeks with "mummy". Plus you can charge a bit extra as they should be house trained by about week 6.

[Curious_AJ]

Nah I'm serious. In some countries it's illegal to sell dogs under 8 weeks old. I know they'll be driving you insane but they really benefit from that extra few weeks with "mummy". Plus you can charge a bit extra as they should be house trained by about week 6.

thing is about this.. I'd know from spending lots of time in vets lately etc.. you can sell them at 6 weeks, its perfectly fine, so long as you make sure that you've either vaccinated them, or you make sure the person that gets it does it right away!!

vax times are 6,9 then 12 weeks and then yearly boosters... as for kennel cough, it can be given when needed, though it's reccommended that if you have lots of dogs, get it topped up regularely (nasal or injectable).

in saying that... OMG I WANT THAT PUPPY!!!!! but I'm poor :'( and currently in a non-suitable living space... so sad...

[007XX]

Keep me safe from temptation...and from my son if he sees this picture! I'd never hear the end of it...

Gosh she's cute... Gaaahhhh...ok, going onto another thread now...:spudwave:

[NotaGoth]

thing is about this.. I'd know from spending lots of time in vets lately etc.. you can sell them at 6 weeks, its perfectly fine, so long as you make sure that you've either vaccinated them, or you make sure the person that gets it does it right away!!

vax times are 6,9 then 12 weeks and then yearly boosters... as for kennel cough, it can be given when needed, though it's reccommended that if you have lots of dogs, get it topped up regularely (nasal or injectable).

in saying that... OMG I WANT THAT PUPPY!!!!! but I'm poor :'( and currently in a non-suitable living space... so sad...

Its not because of vaccinations. Its because of the behaviour they show when taken away from "mum" to early. There are things they don't learn as easily if at all when they have been taken to early. And they "can" end up having behaviour issues.

Who wants a puppy or kitten that hasn't learned how to lick its own arse clean???? amoung other things.

My old lady worked for a pound in Aussie years and years back. They used to put down anything that was under a certain age, as raising them wasn't recommended because of this.

Kittens are the same. Alot of kittens that have been taken off their mums to early end up "playing" with their claws out. The breeder I got my cat through won't let ANY kittens go under the age of 11 weeks as its not recommended.

[Curious_AJ]

true, true... well UNITEC must have taught me wrong then... they and the UVH and the VSG and a couple of local vets I've worked at, say that they've learnt all that stuff by the time they're 6 weeks.

[Curious_AJ]

but still.. "mum" wouldnt teach them how to lick their bum lol... only the actual mother of the pup would do that... I don't see a human teaching things like that... rofl...

[deanohit]

Heelers are awesome dogs, but I have discovered that unless brought up with bikes, actually hate them! I worked for a guy that had one, once I got to know "Pip" she never even got off her bed when I came to his house for work. The first day I rode my bike there, she very nearly had me off the damn thing! Biting the hell out of my legs, was not till I spoke to her that she stopped!

Cool thanks Mom, definitely something to remember.

[vifferman]

We used to have a fox terrier / King Charles spaniel crossbreed. He was a lovely dog - very good with kids, and very sociable.

When we were in Oz recently, we got talking with the owner of Peacock Hill Wines in the Hunter Valley. He was telling us about a Pomerian/terrier crossbreed he had that would run outside if it heard the birds making a noise, and see what they were alarmed about. It used to have a thing for snakes, and killed heaps of them, including big brown snakes. It would catch them, bite their heads off and bring them home.

[Blondini]

Nah I'm serious. In some countries it's illegal to sell dogs under 8 weeks old. I know they'll be driving you insane but they really benefit from that extra few weeks with "mummy". Plus you can charge a bit extra as they should be house trained by about week 6.

Thanks..by 5 weeks the mum has had enough and they are left to fend for themselves..Sure you can ask for more but you add vaccination and worming etc and you would have to ask for a load more and is just not worth it when you breed them.I bought 2 of my breeding bitches at 6 weeks old as any pup I have ever bought.and believe me I have had several pups

[scracha]

Curious AJ - Most vets know bugger all about dog training and behavior. Makes me cringe when I see some of the "puppy training" classes they run. Train the bloody owners first.

If the sums don't add up when breeding pups then the answer is simple, don't let them breed. I won't make friends for this but IMHO there's no real excuse for selling pups that young. Aside from the dam, they learn from the rest of the litter. Obviously Kiwi logic and "she'll be right" come into play over here.

[Blondini]

Curious AJ - Most vets know bugger all about dog training and behavior. Makes me cringe when I see some of the "puppy training" classes they run. Train the bloody owners first.

If the sums don't add up when breeding pups then the answer is simple, don't let them breed. I won't make friends for this but IMHO there's no real excuse for selling pups that young. Aside from the dam, they learn from the rest of the litter. Obviously Kiwi logic and "she'll be right" come into play over here.

TouchyWe dont all do it for the money

[Curious_AJ]

Curious AJ - Most vets know bugger all about dog training and behavior. Makes me cringe when I see some of the "puppy training" classes they run. Train the bloody owners first.

If the sums don't add up when breeding pups then the answer is simple, don't let them breed. I won't make friends for this but IMHO there's no real excuse for selling pups that young. Aside from the dam, they learn from the rest of the litter. Obviously Kiwi logic and "she'll be right" come into play over here.

FYI its the nurses that run the classes, not the vets.. and the nurses are not actually trained to do it properly... i would know... don't get so touchy about it... but one class i know of is really good,she trained her own dogs, and she runs lots of puppy classes, if not almost half of the ones in the north shore... so no generalising here please.

but I have to say... the above is kind of... nonsense... no offence...

[Curious_AJ]

oh, and adding to my above comment... vets actually know a hell of a lot. don't put them down just because they are more interested in the surgery. they know LOADS about behaviour and trainign, they have to really, or how are they supposed to treat an animal and know about their demeanor and signs of ill health etc... SOME may not know much, but the statement that MOST dont, is bull.. im sorry.