Uni of Life v Uni Degree?

[Mom]

This is bound to be contentious but here we go....

Another thread on here has highlighted something that intrigues me, and to be honest gets my blood running.

Does a University Degree make you more educated/more respected/more employable, in todays world? If you dont hold a degree, does that make you dumb, and stupid and your opinions count for nothing.


Apologies to the people that i quote here but here are two different opinions;

your wrong there mate.. on 2 accounts. Firstly i left school 20 years ago with 1 O level returnd to college to get a few more and then a diplma or two. couldn't get a job unless you had qualifications so i got pissed for a year in spain; the entry into qualified work/careers is no harder now than it was then or even earlier..

and secondly you say your more educated.... care to show me how you come to that assumtion> you know nothing of my background other than i didn't attend Uni....In my view, Uni's a waste of time and money.

your lack of university education is prevalent in your argument, which seems to be based on the three points that you have stated.

firstly, everyone thinks they pay "faaaar too much tax's" but the fact remains that the one's who are likely to go on to provide extensive returns by way of taxes to this country's pitiful economy are us, students. so it would be in their best interests to keep us safe, ensure that we finish our studies and hopefully retain our skills.

secondly, you never went to uni.....boo-fucking-hoo, then you have no right to comment mate as you have no idea about the stresses involved in being a student.

Poll follows, for those smart pants that want to leap in here......lol

[Drum]

It's possible to have both life experience and a degree. They aren't mutually exclusive.

[boomer]

attending university is nothing other than a key to unlock the door to the next room. It neither makes your 'more cleverer' or entitles you with a right.

still.. if you or your parents or the tax payer wanna spend 50k+ on a degree you better hope to god you get a $150k a year job to pay the fooka back.. Worth it ? Maybe for the memories. For gettin on in life? there are harder ways but definitely cheaper ways.

to get on in life you have to be driven and have some nouce about you.. the rest is just ink on paper..

[Trudes]

It's possible to have both life experience and a degree. They aren't mutually exclusive.

I'd agree with that, that and since being at uni I no longer have an opinion of my own, I'm being brain washed I tell ya, brain washed!! (LOL)

[Usarka]

If you have a degree it doesn't mean you're not a moron and conversely if you dont have one it doesnt mean you are fick. Both camps have their share of morons, but given the nature of a degree it is a good indicator that someone can work at something for a period of time and apply a level of thought.

the difference between morons with degrees and those without is:

• morons with degrees think they are intelligent but they arent
• morons without degrees think degrees are a waste of time and world-smarts are more important as they strum their banjo

most of the professional people i admire and respect did not get a degree [straight after school]. some did post-grad/masters study later in life though.

[The Pastor]

Does a University Degree make you a more educated person?

The answer is yes it makes you more educated.

I take it you did not go to uni mom?

[Usarka]

if i was entering the workforce today i would get a trade.

[Magua]

Go back to your knitting 'Granda'!

[The Pastor]

tis funny how everyone at uni hates it (except ba students) and how everyone at work says work sux and uni is awesome or how they'd be better in a trade.

[howdamnhard]

Yes going to university does make you more educated,but not more intelligent.

[Usarka]

in a trade there are ample opportunities to a) be your own boss and b) work outside the main centres.

put it this way, even renegade master has been to uni.....

[The Pastor]

in a trade there are ample opportunities to a) be your own boss and b) work outside the main centres.

put it this way, even renegade master has been to uni.....

nah bro i go to unitec.

[Mom]

Does a University Degree make you a more educated person?

The answer is yes it makes you more educated.

I take it you did not go to uni mom?

No Mr Smarty pants I did not! My "education" is not relevant to this discussion however. How about you explain your definition of an educated person. Mine will follow never fear.

if i was entering the workforce today i would get a trade.

Those Student Loans are a bitch for sure. I am not knocking a Degree, we need Doctors and Dentists and God forbid, Lawyers and the like.......my problem is with the customer service people with Degrees and huge debt!

[Bullitt]

Many students do try to pass off that its far harder than it is. I completed a double honours degree in 4 years while working 20-30 hours per week. My gf is completing a 3 year degree part time in 4 years while working full time.

Saying that its not for everyone. Ive seen plenty of people who honestly found it really hard work.

From what ive experienced since finishing uni.

3 years of work experience is better than 3 year degree and no experience
10 years of work experience is worse than 7 years of work experience and a 3 year degree.

It can be really tough getting where you want to without a degree. Thats why my gf has gone back to uni because she was struggling to progress without it. Whereas Ive been given probably more respect than I deserved based on having a post grad degree.

[boomer]

Does a University Degree make you a more educated person?

The answer is yes it makes you more educated.

I take it you did not go to uni mom?

no it doesn't.. it means you can read, digest and regurgitate.. nothing more nothing less.

here.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education for example. no one will win this debate.. it's all based on your own beliefs and experiences.

and as far as im concerned.. i'm gonna LEARN you ALL!