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    Abuse of women?

    According to a study by the University of Auckland a quarter of women were abused as children. I'm thinking "Holy shit I'm naive" coz I never thought that. Fark, I dunno is this real?

    I suppose the abuse that they are referring to is sexual of some sort - and I suppose that ranges from lewd or suggestive comments to physical sexual abuse.

    This is not about women bashing or forcing anyone to share anything - I'm just absolutely stunned at these figures!
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    Define abuse though.
    I could say I was left unattended for hours on end as a child, is that abuse? Am I fucked up? Ok, don't answer that.

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    I reckon 99% of blokes over a certain age will have suffered what would be defined as abuse these days. Second guessing historical models of discipline and abuse is futile. That was then, this is now. Get over it.

    Like any public survey/study in NZ it is designed to create advertising revenue and bolster an industry that makes money out of misery.
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    They'll be talking about sexual abuse. Nothing to do with blokes getting the strap, Jim2.

    In other words, sexual violation of underage girls, often well before puberty. Usually (almost always, in fact) by an older male family member.

    It fucks their heads up for life, and it's a silent scourge on society that causes far more pain and dysfunctionality than people who've never been affected by it realise.

    And yes, I can well believe that 25% of women have been victims of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Second guessing historical models of discipline is futile. That was then, this is now. Get over it.

    And look at the youth of today!

    Bring back the cane and CMT and lets see how big these little gangstas are then....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    They'll be talking about sexual abuse. Nothing to do with blokes getting the strap, Jim2.
    I am talking about what would be defined as sexual abuse today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I am talking about what would be defined as sexual abuse today.
    And if you ask the right questions you get the right answers. And if you say something often enough it must be true (or is that factual?).

    You need to be very careful with quoting stats without knowing the details of the statistical survey that was carried, especially the survey group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwalo View Post
    And if you ask the right questions you get the right answers. And if you say something often enough it must be true (or is that factual?).

    You need to be very careful with quoting stats without knowing the details of the statistical survey that was carried, especially the survey group.
    Its in the herald today.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10471770

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    My father kissed me on the cheek when I was 5 - does that count? Oh, I'm not a woman so I guess it doesn't...

    But yes, it is most definately as much larger number of people out there struggling with these things than one would imagine. I've met a few girls who had been subjected to such abuse. Ironically, a substantial amount of the damage done is due to the taboo, reluctance to accept and/or discuss the matter and carrying the weight of these violations on your own shoulders.

    Whether there's more abuse today than in the past or if there's just more focus on it is hard to tell. Dunno how exactly, but I guess the heightened sexual awareness and abolishment of sexual taboos ties in with this issue as well. It's just damn tricky really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwalo View Post
    And if you ask the right questions you get the right answers. And if you say something often enough it must be true (or is that factual?).

    You need to be very careful with quoting stats without knowing the details of the statistical survey that was carried, especially the survey group.
    Some truth in what you say but doesn't do too much harm to highlight what is still an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I am talking about what would be defined as sexual abuse today.
    Rap videos....? I'm not too impressed with the incredibly early sexualisation of kids, girls or boys.

    But back on topicc - this is serious shite. I've had a couple of fantastic women confide in me over the years that they have suffered sexual abuse at the hands of an older relative (one was an older girl at that point of 'experimenting') and it's done all manner of damage.

    Some seem to react by being overly sexual, others by being almost frigid. It sure destroys any notions of what a 'normal sexual response' is.

    It annoys the shit out of me to be honest... and I reckon kiddy fiddlers would be best punished by standing them in front of a small guillotine.... SNIP

    and THEN they start their punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    I reckon kiddy fiddlers would be best punished by standing them in front of a small guillotine.... SNIP
    Fuckin' A.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    The cure for women - I'm not sure...
    I don't think there is one.

    All I can say is, avoid the poor broken bitches like the plague, guys.
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    i voted yes... wont go in to details, but if anyone knows a fix, let me know. counselling didnt work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    It annoys the shit out of me to be honest... and I reckon kiddy fiddlers would be best punished by standing them in front of a small guillotine.... SNIP

    and THEN they start their punishment.
    Aaaaaahh, you and I finally agree on a just punishment for this!


    There is no cure for women in this situation I think. Once the damage is done, I don't really think you can just wipe away this sort of experience.
    My father was a very harsh disciplinarian, but would have never touched me in that other way that is just so very wrong.
    Parents who do this are sick and should be treated as such, with no option to ever be able to repeat the offence.
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    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    There is no cure for women in this situation I think. Once the damage is done, I don't really think you can just wipe away this sort of experience.
    Yeah a "fix" is a challenge, but I was actually referring to women that abuse kids. Either way we see eye to eye on it. It's abuse... and it's destructive... pure and simple.

    I wish sex was not such a closed door subject for a number of reasons - and this is one of 'em. If people could/would talk about it... disfunction would become more apparent (even just to the individual concerned) and they could start finding help if they needed it.
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