Suzuki unveils hydrogen bike

**Bob** · 25th October 2007, 00:23

Suzuki – in partnership with UK company Intelligent Energy – have debuted the Crosscage, a hydrogen powered motorcycle, at the Tokyo bike show.

The Crosscage, which runs in almost complete silence and emits pure water, can run for about 100 miles on a single charge, although the motor has a slow top speed, but still faster than Intelligent Energy’s ENV prototype..

Suzuki describes the Crosscage as ‘being inspired by a sea bass’, but most comments compare it to looking more like a Katana.

At this stage, the Crosscage is still a concept bike – but even anyone in the UK wanted to buy one, they would have no-where to refuel, as BP has demolished the only public hydrogen filling station at Hornchurch in Essex!

Does NZ have any public hydrogen filling stations?

**Machiavelli** · 25th October 2007, 00:45

Originally Posted by Bob

Suzuki – in partnership with UK company Intelligent Energy – have debuted the Crosscage, a hydrogen powered motorcycle . . .

Does NZ have any public hydrogen filling stations?

Sounds great, sign me up

But, er, yeah, I don't think we're sufficiently advanced enough in our grasp of useful technology or our opinions on ecology to have any hydrogen filling stations...

**Romeo** · 25th October 2007, 01:20

Well, at least it looks fast...

**homer** · 25th October 2007, 06:05

why bother
Id rather go put gasoline in the tank.
more power and cheaper
....Before you say it .
I know its clean and green .Which makes it expensive anything good costs more .
By the way youll run out of water to drink and wash before the oil supply runs out .
They only tell us its running out so it keeps the price up .
Think about it
Take the wind farms there putting up ,How long do people really think there going to supply enough power for how many people .

Simple solution
Nuke station

**James Deuce** · 25th October 2007, 06:10

No we don't have Hydrogen filling stations.

Hydrogen is a poor choice to replace petrol. It requires as much energy as you get out of it to separate it from water making it incredibly expensive as you can never make an energy "profit" from it. You are always spending more energy than you are using.

The best hydrogen source is hydrocarbons - crude oil in other words and the process of refining petroleum distillates is again more energy efficient than making pure hydrogen from hydrocarbons.

The only way to get around the "peak oil production crisis" is to change our expectations of what constitutes personal transport.

**homer** · 25th October 2007, 06:16

thats clever ...walking .

not im my life time though
Have been thinking my next car might be an 8 not a 6

**jonbuoy** · 25th October 2007, 07:18

Originally Posted by Jim2

No we don't have Hydrogen filling stations.

Hydrogen is a poor choice to replace petrol. It requires as much energy as you get out of it to separate it from water making it incredibly expensive as you can never make an energy "profit" from it. You are always spending more energy than you are using.

The best hydrogen source is hydrocarbons - crude oil in other words and the process of refining petroleum distillates is again more energy efficient than making pure hydrogen from hydrocarbons.

The only way to get around the "peak oil production crisis" is to change our expectations of what constitutes personal transport.

True but if its a fuel cell it won't use much energy when stopped in traffic like a combustion engine does. If you think of Hydrogen fuel cells as re-chargable batteries which is what they are in effect, they can be eco friendly if the power is generated efficiently in the first place - using off peak power overnight to charge/split your fuel or something.

**James Deuce** · 25th October 2007, 07:24

Fuel cells are incredibly eco-unfriendly, much worse than catalytic converters, but not quite as bad as the batteries that go in hybrids. No "green" person ever seems to think of disposal and the effort and energy that will be required to keep heavy metals and poisonous compounds out of our drinking water and off our playing fields. Landfills usually end up as schools.

I've yet to see the fuel cell vehicle that looks good and has at least the same range as the petrol vehicle it replaces.

Being green goes much further than just the power source in your vehicle.

**Swoop** · 25th October 2007, 08:24

...the Crosscage as ‘being inspired by a sea bass’...
Cage?

Sea bass???

A bit late for April 1st isn't it?

Well, at least suzuki has caught up with the single-sided pro-arm.

**BIGBOSSMAN** · 25th October 2007, 12:37

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**avgas** · 25th October 2007, 12:55

looks interesting.
i personally think hydrogen wont take off - as to much investment is required by the supplier.
Why aren't there any bikes with solar panel fairings yet? Its a simple enough concept - and probably cheaper than GSP?

**merv** · 25th October 2007, 18:00

I see they are cross-bracing the frame in that new design too!!

The Hindenburg was hydrogen filled huh!! Until it burnt.

**puddy** · 25th October 2007, 18:20

Originally Posted by homer

thats clever ...walking .

not im my life time though
Have been thinking my next car might be an 8 not a 6

He or She who burns most fossil fuel WINS!

**Bren** · 31st October 2007, 18:28

Video of the crosscage HERE

Interesting bike.....

**motorbyclist** · 27th November 2007, 00:56

Originally Posted by Jim2

The only way to get around the "peak oil production crisis" is to change our expectations of what constitutes personal transport.

OR, we used electric vehicles running on battery power. very efficient, zero emissions, and it's actually cleaner to run an EV on oil generated electricity than a petrol car

manufacturers are popping up everywhere

and oil is a finite resource for which we are being well and truly ripped off