Bring back the Castrol Six Hour....

**scracha** · 7th November 2007, 18:53

Now if we could just turn the Coro Loop into a TT race the week after

http://www.race24.com/
http://www.hottrax-motorsport.co.uk/

**limbimtimwim** · 7th November 2007, 20:09

Come watch?

I'd compete!

But I couldn't do big races the day before. I'm too unfit.

**roogazza** · 8th November 2007, 08:39

The trouble with these endurance races, and I've seen it so many times in the past, is you get all sorts of novices "going racing" ! At castrol 6 hrs all sorts would jump out of the woodwork and be a danger to themselves and more importantly to the pros.
Far to many want to just get out there so they get their photo taken.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see it happen, but only in a professional form with dealer teams etc. The state road racing is in, as compared to the 6 hr days , I doubt it can happen at the moment.
That ends my negative rant for today. Gaz.

**skelstar** · 8th November 2007, 09:52

I'm def keen to come watch... would't mind giving it a nudge but Gaz makes a good point.

**t3mp0r4ry nzr** · 8th November 2007, 11:10

Originally Posted by roogazza

The trouble with these endurance races, and I've seen it so many times in the past, is you get all sorts of novices "going racing" ! At castrol 6 hrs all sorts would jump out of the woodwork and be a danger to themselves and more importantly to the pros.
Far to many want to just get out there so they get their photo taken.

stipulate that a minimum of three entries into race licence must be present to register, just like closed street races

I would love to do an endurance race at least once, itll break the bank but would be well worth it IMHO

**limbimtimwim** · 8th November 2007, 11:58

Originally Posted by t3mp0r4ry nzr

I would love to do an endurance race at least once, itll break the bank but would be well worth it IMHO

I don't think it has to. On a superbike, yeah, you'll eat tyres which I imagine are your major cost. But on a protwin or and F3 bike, it shant cost that much shurely...?

**scrivy** · 8th November 2007, 13:09

Originally Posted by FROSTY

ok so itll be the GW, frosty,laurence brothers/scrivy 6 hour--eeeep --heck of a mouthfull

Christ!! What were you going to put in your mouth?? I don't think you'd need to open it that wide.....

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Ive just encountered hurdle number one to get over.
Taupo as it stands ISN"T approved by MNZ as a national level track.
The issue is the wall turning onto the start finish straight.
Not insamountable -itll come back to the Hay bale/bottle bales may be enough.
Amazing when you have a track that HAS killed/ maimed riders in the last few years that IS MNZ aproved

Hold on - didn't the Taupo track get approved by Slighty and Paul Pav?? Didn't MNZ want someone to hold a round of the nationals there??
Have I overlooked something??

How then do I get authority to hold an MNZ permitted meeting there each December?? If someone gets hurt, do MNZ not get insurances to pay out, etc?? Why then do we pay riders levies etc??
What is required for MNZ to endorse the Taupo track?? Who's pulling whos pud?? I mean, Puke being approved.........

How many clubdays are there at Puke compared to Taupo??

**codgyoleracer** · 8th November 2007, 13:12

Originally Posted by scrivy

What is required for MNZ to endorse the Taupo track?? Who's pulling whos pud?? I mean, Puke being approved.........

How many clubdays are there at Puke compared to Taupo??

Nice one Scrivmeister, lets see if Frosty can trip us up on something proper next time

Glen

**Toast** · 8th November 2007, 14:39

Originally Posted by limbimtimwim

I don't think it has to. On a superbike, yeah, you'll eat tyres which I imagine are your major cost. But on a protwin or and F3 bike, it shant cost that much shurely...?

With entry fees of around $500 as previously discussed you've already got a high starting point for costs...

My bike uses about 4L of gas in a 5 lap race at Taupo. 200 laps of the place would be about $300 in gas. A set of hard tyres in there will be $500ish.

Then you've got to hope you don't break anything. Risk of crashing is a whole lot higher as you will definitely get fatigued.

I'm sure there are other costs in there as well.

The only thing much lower for an F3 bike would be tyres. But the more competitive you wanted to be, the less that difference to an F1/F2 bike would be.

**scracha** · 8th November 2007, 14:57

Originally Posted by Toast

With entry fees of around $500 as previously discussed you've already got a high starting point for costs...

Split that between 2 riders though. There's a lot of different ways of doing endurance racing and 1 method is the riders go on their own bikes (more like a relay race, reduces risk of some other plonker wrecking your bike and eliminates the need for refuelling crew and marshalls in pits). Might be more appropriate for Saturday or "club" level endurance racing. Also take into account the sheer amount of track time for the money.

I think one of the main stumbling points is that Taupo is a $hitty little track and would only cater for about 35 bikes. Effectively that would mean only F1/F2.

**moT** · 8th November 2007, 15:14

Originally Posted by scracha

Split that between 2 riders though. There's a lot of different ways of doing endurance racing and 1 method is the riders go on their own bikes (more like a relay race, reduces risk of some other plonker wrecking your bike and eliminates the need for refuelling crew and marshalls in pits). Might be more appropriate for Saturday or "club" level endurance racing. Also take into account the sheer amount of track time for the money.

I think one of the main stumbling points is that Taupo is a $hitty little track and would only cater for about 35 bikes. Effectively that would mean only F1/F2.

your so pessimistic you need to believe

**scrivy** · 8th November 2007, 15:21

Originally Posted by Toast

With entry fees of around $500 as previously discussed you've already got a high starting point for costs...

My bike uses about 4L of gas in a 5 lap race at Taupo. 200 laps of the place would be about $300 in gas. A set of hard tyres in there will be $500ish.

Then you've got to hope you don't break anything. Risk of crashing is a whole lot higher as you will definitely get fatigued.

I'm sure there are other costs in there as well.

The only thing much lower for an F3 bike would be tyres. But the more competitive you wanted to be, the less that difference to an F1/F2 bike would be.

$500 entry!!! F@#k !!! Maybe I should charge more for my meeting......

**skelstar** · 8th November 2007, 15:31

Get Vic Club to host a round, and make it that you can only enter if you pre-pay for all the other rounds in their season, promotes their races and ensures a high-level of competance.